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dijit ◴[] No.42159330[source]
I always found it really frustrating that a "zero tolerance" policy to bullying seemed to disproportionately affect people who eventually fight back.

I would guess it's a combination of "nobody sees the first hit" (since your attention is elsewhere, of course) and that bullies get quite good at testing boundaries and thus know how to avoid detection.

But, really, it's truly frustrating that as I child I was bullied relentlessly, and when I finally took my parents advice and stood my ground, I was expelled from school (due to zero tolerance). Those bullies continued to torment some other kids, of course.

This is far from an uncommon situation, over the years I've heard many more scenarios like this.

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1. valval ◴[] No.42162701[source]
I think this is a silly attribute of our western societies in general. Disallowing physical violence in response to emotional violence is hypocritical. The latter can be way worse, yet the former serves as a straightforward remedy.

I believe in the “talk shit, get hit” sentiment. It’s easy to spot people who have never been hit in their entire life.