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dijit ◴[] No.42159330[source]
I always found it really frustrating that a "zero tolerance" policy to bullying seemed to disproportionately affect people who eventually fight back.

I would guess it's a combination of "nobody sees the first hit" (since your attention is elsewhere, of course) and that bullies get quite good at testing boundaries and thus know how to avoid detection.

But, really, it's truly frustrating that as I child I was bullied relentlessly, and when I finally took my parents advice and stood my ground, I was expelled from school (due to zero tolerance). Those bullies continued to torment some other kids, of course.

This is far from an uncommon situation, over the years I've heard many more scenarios like this.

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Loughla ◴[] No.42159404[source]
I was also expelled for fighting back. This was how I learned that documentation is important in life.

When I got the paperwork saying I was out, my parents sent back all the correspondence with the school, the dates the bully bothered me, and the responses (or lack thereof) from the school. I was reinstated and the bully went to another district.

Bullying in my day was at least bearable because it was confined to times when I was physically near the bully. Kids today have it so much worse with social media. It's genuinely terrifying. I don't wonder why many teens are anxious. Everything they do is documented.

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1. arrowsmith ◴[] No.42162301[source]
> Kids today have it so much worse with social media.

Why would you let your child use social media?

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2. CalRobert ◴[] No.42162431[source]
Kids are smart and will find ways around your blocking attempts. Though I tend to agree, it's a scourge.
3. danpad ◴[] No.42163154[source]
You do and they can get bullied because of it.

You don't and they can get bullied because of it and also become the weird kid that doesn't have social media.

Sometimes there isn't a good choice. :/

4. Loughla ◴[] No.42163957[source]
Because that's how everything in their world is planned and organized? You're backed into a corner as a parent.

I don't have any social media and I think (while the concept of social media is awesome) it's going to genuinely be the fuel on a very violent fire at some point.

But if your kid doesn't have some kind of social media at a certain point, their social life is non-existent. I don't like the rules, but I don't make the rules.

Also, do you not remember being a kid and finding technology work arounds? I remember feeling like an absolutely l337 hacker when I found a way around the parental locks on our family pc as a kid. I'm not stupid enough to think they won't do the same.