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1. docflabby ◴[] No.42160646[source]
Dark matter is just made up bs if you replace "magic" for dark whenever its mentioned its the same difference - theres no tangable evidence it exists at all.
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2. XCSme ◴[] No.42160755[source]
There is no evidence that anything exists...
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3. akvadrako ◴[] No.42161098[source]
Dark energy is literally this - it just means something is different than predicted by current leading theories.

There is plenty of evidence that either dark matter or an alternative is needed and CDM is just the most popular take.

4. anon291 ◴[] No.42164403[source]
One can use multiple different instruments to corroborate our own senses that matter does indeed exist, whereas the explicitly inferred properties of dark matter / energy make it impossible to detect. That honestly seems more religious than anything.

Yes... we can claim that the gravitational effects are what let us 'observe' it, but this is like the former view of geocentrism and then using various orbital corrections to make things work. That is to say, one can choose almost any axiom and then fit predictive models to work around it, but it doesn't mean that the axiom itself is more accurate, and indeed we should always be looking to vet our axioms anyway.

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5. XCSme ◴[] No.42164477{3}[source]
> own senses that matter does indeed exist

What about people with schizofrenia? They can also use their senses and say something exists, when it actually doesn't.

6. smolder ◴[] No.42167101[source]
It represents a discrepancy between our models and observations of the universe, which imply there is a lot of unaccounted-for non-interactive mass out there.

Dark matter generally is less a theory and more a question: Where is all this mass? Does it really exist? What can explain it? What is missing from or wrong with our understanding of physics that explains our observations?

If you want to complain about a specific theory of dark matter like lambda-CDM or challenge our understanding of gravity or whatever, it'd be more correct to name the actual theory.