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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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492 points storf45 | 4 comments | 16 Nov 24 03:42 UTC | HN request time: 0.211s | source
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ctvo ◴[16 Nov 24 18:37 UTC] No.42158173[source]▶
It’s insane the excuses being made here for Netflix’s apparently unique circumstances.

They failed. Full stop. There is no valid technical reason they couldn’t have had a smooth experience. There are numerous people with experience building these systems they could have hired and listened to. It isn’t a novel problem.

Here are the other companies that are peers that livestream just fine, ignoring traditional broadcasters:

- Google (YouTube live), millions of concurrent viewers

- Amazon (Thursday Night Football, Twitch), millions of concurrent viewers

- Apple (MLS)

NBC live streamed the Olympics in the US for tens of millions.

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y-c-o-m-b ◴[16 Nov 24 19:01 UTC] No.42158375[source]▶
Amazon had their fair share of livestream failures and for notably less viewers. I don't think they deserve a spot on that list. I briefly worked in streaming media for sports and while it's not a novel problem, there are so many moving parts and points of failure that it can easily all go badly.
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1. deanCommie ◴[16 Nov 24 19:16 UTC] No.42158495[source]▶
There is no one "Amazon" here, there are at least 3:

* Twitch: Essentially invented live streaming. Fantastic.

* Amazon Interactive Video Service [0]: Essentially "Twitch As A Service", built by Twitch engineers. Fantastic.

* Prime Video. Same exact situation as Netflix: original expertise is all in static content. Lots of growing pains with live video and poor reports. But they've figured it out: now there are regular live streams (NHL and NFL), and other channel providers do live streaming on Prime Video as a distribution platform.

[0] https://aws.amazon.com/ivs/

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2. margaretdouglas ◴[16 Nov 24 20:18 UTC] No.42158951[source]▶
Doesn't twitch almost fall over (other non-massive streams impacted) when anyone gets close to 4-5m concurrent viewers? I remember last time it happened everything started falling over, even for smaller streams. Even if Netflix struggled with the event, streaming other content worked just fine for me.
3. ukuina ◴[16 Nov 24 20:30 UTC] No.42159048[source]▶
IVS does not scale past 1080p: https://ivs.rocks/
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4. deanCommie ◴[20 Nov 24 19:52 UTC] No.42197463[source]▶
4K is overrated for streaming. Most people's connections can't handle it so it always ends up getting downscaled.

pisses me off.

physical media for the win, tho.