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176 points Brajeshwar | 15 comments | 16 Nov 24 16:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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doomlaser ◴[16 Nov 24 16:38 UTC] No.42157271[source]▶
Come on, Apple. What are you doing? I was thinking just the other day that Apple should virtualize older iPhones within the latest iPhone system software, so you could seamlessly open old apps and games (32-bit, anyone?) in their own containerized environments. I can't think why they haven't added this feature for any reason other than money grubbing.

You could even customize the containers to be completely closed off from the rest of the iPhone—no contacts, no Internet access (or high security Internet access), etc.

Come on, Apple. Do something good for once. Oh and bring back the headphone jack.

-Mark

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1. christianqchung ◴[16 Nov 24 16:54 UTC] No.42157383[source]▶
I don't think almost anyone actually want a headphone jack anymore. Just the consumer reality in 2024. I do obviously, but it's clearly too rare for them to bother with.
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2. SoftTalker ◴[16 Nov 24 17:01 UTC] No.42157425[source]▶
Yes people seem happy to buy not only new phones every couple of years but new accessory devices as well. I don't understand it but it's quite apparent.
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3. plufz ◴[16 Nov 24 17:04 UTC] No.42157441[source]▶
Why do you want a headphone jack? Not a rhetorical question, just genuine interest. Is it about audio quality, avoiding batteries or something else?

I would find it so cumbersome to use a cable on a handheld device nowdays. But different things for different people! :)

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4. plufz ◴[16 Nov 24 17:11 UTC] No.42157488[source]▶
I find it very practical with small Bluetooth earbuds, but I agree on the consumption aspect of it. I really don’t like that I can’t change the batteries in my AirPods. I would even be semi-okay with having to hand in them to a technician for battery exchange, for a reasonable cost. But the current battery exchange for airpods is just another name for buying new earbuds. And the third party solutions that actually change the batteries cost about as much as new buds.
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6. developerDan ◴[16 Nov 24 17:31 UTC] No.42157610[source]▶
Not who you are replying to but my $30 wired Apple earbuds (came with my 6S) have outlived all of my co-workers half dozen $160 AirPods. That’s reason enough for a lot of people.
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7. adra ◴[16 Nov 24 17:32 UTC] No.42157618[source]▶
I don't daily drive my phone for commuting anymore, but the trade-offs aren't exactly new: - battery frustrations - cost of a dozen cheap but good quality headphones vs a wireless equivalent - easier to lose wireless headsets when you put them down somewhere (wired too, but way cheaper so less big deal) - audio quality? Who knows

For people that demand noise cancelling, you need an active power source, but I personally hate noise cancellation and always turn them off. Maybe valuable in a plane with lots of engine noise.

8. mh- ◴[16 Nov 24 17:41 UTC] No.42157682{3}[source]▶
For $8.99 you can buy a high quality USB-C (or lightning) DAC with a 3.5mm output directly from Apple.

It's tiny and lightweight. I keep one in the back of my headphone case.

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9. ericd ◴[16 Nov 24 17:44 UTC] No.42157696[source]▶
My wired Shure in ear monitors have much better sound quality, and battery management on AirPods is pretty annoying. Even when they’re not running out mid-trip, it’s just unnecessary mental overhead to keep another thing charged.
10. secondcoming ◴[16 Nov 24 17:54 UTC] No.42157779[source]▶
For me it’s because

- I already have high quality earphones, same set for many years

- they don’t require charging

- audio quality is great

- they’ll work on any device with a 3.5mm jack, no proprietary lock-ins

- I have never lost a set of earphones and if I did replacement wouldn’t break the bank

11. plufz ◴[16 Nov 24 18:29 UTC] No.42158106{3}[source]▶
Yeah I agree, that is a very valid reason by itself.
12. lowbloodsugar ◴[16 Nov 24 19:02 UTC] No.42158384{3}[source]▶
You can buy Apples wired earbuds with the lightning connector for $18. Or the lightning to 3.5mm adapter (that’s what I have because I also still have my decade old original earbuds).
13. pishpash ◴[16 Nov 24 19:13 UTC] No.42158469[source]▶
Easier to store vs bulky charging case and charger and charger cable etc. The wired solution is more portable, believe it or not.
14. g8oz ◴[16 Nov 24 19:26 UTC] No.42158559{4}[source]▶
There are never enough USB-C ports.
15. PittleyDunkin ◴[17 Nov 24 07:55 UTC] No.42162688[source]▶
Simpler interface to debug and fix than bluetooth.