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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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307 points MBCook | 2 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:15 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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peppertree ◴[15 Nov 24 20:57 UTC] No.42150946[source]▶
I suspect the biggest factor is speed. After getting used to EV for over a year, every ICE vehicle feels painfully sluggish and slow. If that's the case I'm curious to see how the numbers compare to other EVs.
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HeatrayEnjoyer ◴[15 Nov 24 21:46 UTC] No.42151530[source]▶
I heard EVs are very heavy, how can they be faster?
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thebruce87m ◴[16 Nov 24 09:03 UTC] No.42155387[source]▶
People love to say that EVs are very heavy, or are much, much heavier, massively heavier and so on. This paints the wrong picture in people’s heads. The same people will use the Hummer EV as an example, but most people aren’t driving that.

https://thedriven.io/2024/05/03/are-evs-really-much-heavier-...

> full electric versions are only around 10% to 15% heavier than their direct ICE equivalent

To put it into perspective, from the table, you could load an ICE with passengers and some luggage and it would weigh the same as the EV equivalent with just the driver.

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1. Ferret7446 ◴[16 Nov 24 12:03 UTC] No.42155985{3}[source]▶
I assume the misconception is because EVs are massively heavier if they had comparable range, as the reason is the poor energy density of batteries. If an EV had the same range as the ICE then it would be massively heavier, but with significantly reduced range it is only slightly heavier.
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2. thebruce87m ◴[16 Nov 24 13:03 UTC] No.42156202[source]▶
I don’t think people talk about hypothetical EV weight when they make such claims, the claims tend to revolve around EVs currently on the road.

We should also try to discuss “waiting time” rather than range so that people start to think in these terms.

My overall waiting time is much lower for my EV than my old diesel, despite the range of the EV being lower. Less time waiting to fill up on a weekly basis (0 mins while I sleep vs 5 mins filling up + journey time to the petrol station), less time defrosting in the winter (0 mins remote pre-heat vs 5+ scraping), less time waiting to fill up on long journeys (0 extra mins while I eat vs 5 extra mins filling up).

These are all situation dependent of course, but making people adjust their thinking will help them get a more accurate picture of EV ownership.