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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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307 points MBCook | 2 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:15 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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TrainedMonkey ◴[15 Nov 24 21:10 UTC] No.42151114[source]▶
> The study was conducted on model year 2018–2022 vehicles, and focused on crashes between 2017 and 2022 that resulted in occupant fatalities.

Teslas can go fast real fast, so naively this is the result I would expect given how they have filtered the data. In other words, unless they controlled for this, this would be biased by natural selection playing out.

Having said that, as someone who had a couple of close calls with the autopilot. I would love to know what percent of those crashes was with autopilot enabled.

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phony-account ◴[15 Nov 24 21:14 UTC] No.42151164[source]▶
> Teslas can go fast real fast, so naively this is the result I would expect given how they have filtered the data. In other words, unless they controlled for this…

Explain to me why you would want to filter out fatalities caused by going “real fast”?

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1. IncreasePosts ◴[15 Nov 24 21:21 UTC] No.42151235[source]▶
If a bunch of lunatics buy the car because it is fast, and kill themselves, that doesn't necessarily affect my safety in the car if I'm buying it for some other feature and don't intend to drive it dangerously.
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2. piva00 ◴[15 Nov 24 22:16 UTC] No.42151838[source]▶
I think gathering the data to judge who's a lunatic is quite hard and fragile. Finding proxies like past infractions record would be already hard enough to compile at scale, I can't really derive a passable methodology that could tell you what you're asking for.

At least the data informs others that perhaps it's good to be cautious around Teslas, not very much if it's a safe purchase, and they state that it's a safe car so I don't see the hangup you had about it on position of a buyer.