Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

North Carolina next question.

I never understood how in America, a DUI seems to be (from films etc) a relatively minor issue. In the UK you get a prison sentence, even if you didn't cause any harm (eg we're spot-tested).

How is California special in that regard? Many states lack the infrastructure or density to allow for proper enjoyment of alcohol.

A big problem is that America is huge, and relatively sparse at that. You have to drive just to get to the pub!

Unless you're wealthy enough to live in the core of a major metropolitan area, it's all of the states.

For the average American with no criminal record it’s relatively serious. It depends on the state but you’ll usually spend the night or weekend in jail until you can make bail. It can have career repercussions and America’s lenient approach to road accidents goes out the window so if anyone gets hurt except you, there will be a felony charge up to manslaughter.

Actually that would be Texas. Texas has more road fatalities than California. This is _not_ per capita, but in total, which is an interesting statistical point in and of itself.

The data is really easy to get. I wish more people would avail themselves of it.

> Well this touched a nerve.

It's just a little funny you think California is unique in this regard. Pretty much all of the US is extremely underdeveloped when it comes to public transportation. Hillbillies in the boonies have to drive a lot too.

DUI simply isn't enforced. If it were, the number of arrests would be stratospheric, and people's lives would be completely upended by being unable to drive.

I mean, from films etc, us Yanks would think everyone in the UK is piss arse drunk 24/7, sounds like a chimney sweep waiting for Mary Poppins, sends their kids to magic schools, and all live in castles wearing period clothing, all while their gov't watches everything they do from CCTV.

However, most of us understand that films etc are made up stories told for entertainment where if we based our expectations of people solely on that information we'd be grossly mistaken.

There are plenty of people that have their lives severely tilted if not turned upside down from a single DUI. There are also people of means that get off with a much less interruption to their day. I'm guessing it is the same on your side of the pond as well.

Huh? I agree that there are way too many DUI deaths everywhere. The thing I am mocking is this idea that "MY group DOESN'T have these problems and YOUR group DOES." In one case, the group is Tesla owners; another case, the group was, I guess, trees on roads; another was people who drink and drive - a typical HN reader, I am confident, believes that he does not belong to that group. And yet. Perhaps there is a group that the typical HN reader belongs to that does indeed drink and drive.

Your point didn't come across at all.

There also clear lack of alcohol enjoyment education. Gather at friends place and stay overnight, carpools and draw a sober Sam, don’t get overdrunk and drink water for the last 90 min of the party, etc…

I do agree infras and density is a better option. But lack of infra doesn’t justify to drive drunk.

I’m not justifying drunk driving. I asked how California is different from other states in this regard.