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    307 points MBCook | 12 comments | | HN request time: 0.932s | source | bottom
    1. grecy ◴[] No.42150828[source]
    How can any reasonable person know if any story about Tesla (good or bad) is actually factual and useful, or is just a story told from a particular angle to manipulate the stock price for gain?

    While many says it's the ultimate meme stock, I also can't help thinking it's the ultimate manipulation stock - it seems some people desperately want it to go down while others desperately want it to go up.

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    2. robterrell ◴[] No.42150894[source]
    > analyzed data from the U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS)

    Maybe not for the "reasonable person" but government data is available and if you are here you likely know some statistics, so go nuts:

    https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

    and

    https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-report...

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    3. thejazzman ◴[] No.42150911[source]
    I've had one since 2015 and so many issues. When I share them on Reddit I'm downvoted into oblivion for going against the cult

    It's gotten better in the last few years, now that millions of people share the issues, it's harder to drown them out

    Doesn't seem to matter whatsoever for their stock, so that doesn't seems to be too relevant

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    4. Lendal ◴[] No.42150952[source]
    Now Elon will possibly in charge of making that government database disappear.
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    5. kybernetikos ◴[] No.42151007[source]
    Follow the link to the underlying study https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024

    While the linked article is playing up the tesla angle (and so may be thought to be manipulative) the underlying study does not seem to be unusually focused on tesla, it's simply listing the results of a fairly straightforward analysis. I also have no reason to doubt it as I more or less expected tesla to have bad fatality rates compared to class (although I guess I wouldn't have expected them to be quite this bad - I thought they'd be bad compared to other luxury vehicles of similar weight size and price, not absolutely bad compared to most cars).

    But you can find the underlying numbers and critique them if you have reason to think they might be wrong. E.g. if you believed the claims that autopilot was safer than human drivers and was saving lives, you might have expected to see a sign of that in this data (I didn't).

    6. KerrAvon ◴[] No.42151026[source]
    Tesla is a memestock. There's no reason it should be as high as it is; the fundamentals aren't that great and Musk is a danger to the company whether he's in or out of government.
    7. ridgeguy ◴[] No.42151075{3}[source]
    Rapidly growing new file category on Pirate Bay?
    8. jjulius ◴[] No.42151121[source]
    >How can any reasonable person know if any story about Tesla (good or bad) is actually factual and useful, or is just a story told from a particular angle to manipulate the stock price for gain?

    This is a data-based story. Follow the link(s) to review the data if one is unsure whether or not the reporting piece can be trusted.

    9. willsoon ◴[] No.42151189{3}[source]
    Consider, my friends, this elegant plot twist. Musk is a secret blue agent infiltrated to make that government database disappear.
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    11. foobazgt ◴[] No.42151231[source]
    Some context for others - 2015 is fairly early in Tesla's history. The model 3 didn't even exist until 2017. The overwhelming majority of Teslas on the road today are Y's and 3's.

    FWIW, I've personally owned three Teslas with zero problems, but none older than 2019. YMMV.

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    12. thejazzman ◴[] No.42196582{3}[source]
    Early or not, it sure stings when you get hit with a $15k battery replacement cost -- for a refurbished pack! -- literally the day after the warranty dies. And that's only because my parents hadn't driven for a week. All because of an a corroded interior wire they refused to repair? Yet they had refurbished packs to sell.. at $15k.....

    I also have a 2017 and 2023. It's a little early to declare success if your oldest car is 5yo