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Please stop the coding challenges

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CharlieDigital ◴[] No.42148313[source]
A small anecdote.

A partner of a friend quit their job earlier this year. They then took 4-6 weeks to prepare for each interview with Big Tech companies (4-6 weeks for Meta, 4-6 weeks for Stripe, etc.). Along the way, they also took random interviews just to practice and build muscle memory. They would grind leetcode several hours a day after researching which questions were likely to be encountered at each Big Tech.

This paid off and they accepted an offer for L6/staff at a MAANG.

Talked to them this week (haven't even started the new role) and they've already forgotten the details of most of what was practiced. They said that the hardest part was studying for the system design portion because they did not have experience with system design...but now made staff eng. at a MAANG. IRL, this individual is a good but not exceptional engineer having worked with them on a small project.

Wild; absolutely wild and I feel like explains a lot of the boom and bust hiring cycles. When I watch some of the system design interview prep videos, it's just a script. You'll go into the call and all you need to do is largely follow the script. It doesn't matter if you've actually designed similar or more complex systems; the point of the system design interview is apparently "do you know the script"?

Watch these two back to back at 2x speed and marvel at how much of this is executed like a script:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_qu1F9BXow

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K-eupuDVEc

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1. tayo42 ◴[] No.42149406[source]
Your absolutely right about the "system design" interview but people act like it's an amazing type of interview.

People generally don't even want you to go deep on anything, but you're can't stay to shallow.

It's just bsing, yes your absolutely right, it feels like memorizing a script and saying the right words at the right time

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2. icedchai ◴[] No.42152834[source]
Interviewers would be better off focusing on data fundamentals: data modeling, validation, schema design, indexing, sharding/distribution strategies. When you screw this stuff up, it can be very, very hard to fix. The "problems" cascade and build up. Garbage in, garbage out. I've seen databases, in production, with no primary keys or indexes. It is absolutely bonkers.
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3. CharlieDigital ◴[] No.42153131[source]
The thing with the system design script is that it seems so Rube Goldberg. Why not just ask the important bits?