Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe

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uniqueuid ◴[15 Nov 24 08:34 UTC] No.42144954[source]▶

I am kind of frustrated by the widespread misunderstandings in this thread.

Laws are best when they are abstract, so that there is no need for frequent updates and they adapt to changing realities. The European "cookie law" does not mandate cookie banners, it mandates informed consent. Companies choose to implement that as a banner.

There is no doubt that the goals set by the law are sensible. It is also not evident that losing time over privacy is so horrible. In fact, when designing a law that enhances consumer rights through informed consent, it is inevitable that this imposes additional time spent on thinking, considering and acting.

It's the whole point, folks! You cannot have an informed case-by-case decision without spending time.

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1. GardenLetter27 ◴[15 Nov 24 14:55 UTC] No.42147452[source]▶

>>42144954 #

Such basic functionality as cookies shouldn't need explicit consent. The consent is you navigated to the webpage, if you don't like it you can use a browser that doesn't set cookies.

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2. vundercind ◴[15 Nov 24 15:13 UTC] No.42147619[source]▶

>>42147452 (TP) #

Tracking people with cookies is the part that requires consent.

Setting cookies that aren’t used to track people, doesn’t require consent.

The consent is for tracking that happens to use cookies, not for cookies themselves.

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3. happymellon ◴[15 Nov 24 15:17 UTC] No.42147646[source]▶

>>42147452 (TP) #

Me navigating to a webpage is far from consent.

How do I even know that you want to try and farm my personal data until I go there?

Perhaps you should put a click through gateway that states that "proceeding on to this website will sell your personal information to spammy, scummy advertising".

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4. GardenLetter27 ◴[15 Nov 24 15:51 UTC] No.42147963[source]▶

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But you can configure all that client-side anyway.

You choose what you save on your computer and send in responses, not the server sending you the HTML.

The current situation is absurd, the EU just doesn't understand technology.

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5. GardenLetter27 ◴[15 Nov 24 15:59 UTC] No.42148065[source]▶

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Setting a cookie isn't farming personal data.

You can configure your web browser to only send first-party cookies back and never set others. Or configure a subset of domains.

If you're worried about it you should be doing that anyway, since the cookies could be set despite the pop-up (or some websites might ignore the consent pop-up requirement entirely).

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6. TheCoelacanth ◴[15 Nov 24 16:45 UTC] No.42148542{3}[source]▶

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Tracking is not configurable client-side. Blocking cookies is not sufficient to prevent tracking. Is it the EU that doesn't understand technology or you?

7. happymellon ◴[15 Nov 24 19:32 UTC] No.42150072{3}[source]▶

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Consent isn't required for setting a cookie.

You don't appear to know what the regulation is. The "cookie banner" isn't even about setting cookies, its data sharing.

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