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Steve Jobs, NeXTSTEP, and early object-oriented programming (2016)

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107 points wmlive | 1 comments | 12 Nov 24 01:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.209s | source
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itslennysfault ◴[13 Nov 24 19:50 UTC] No.42129253[source]▶
So, this is why the abomination that is Obj-C is/was used for iPhone/Mac apps. I can't overstate how much I hate Obj-C. I'm so sooo happy Swift has pretty much entirely taken over.

Side note... I feel similarly about the Java to Kotlin transition. Sooo much better. Although, I don't hate Java NEARLY as much as Obj-C.

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mentos ◴[13 Nov 24 21:07 UTC] No.42130011[source]▶
Did you start with Swift or Objective-C?

I started with Objective-C and loved it but I imagine that wouldn’t have been the case if I started with Swift.

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1. throwaway655368 ◴[15 Nov 24 12:52 UTC] No.42146460[source]▶
I started the iOS development with Objective-C and hated the language. gp's comment is pretty much my feeling as well. I wonder if I'd enjoy Swift so much if it wasn't in contrast to how utterly horrible Objective-C was. These days I still need to revisit legacy Obj-C codebases occasionally or make Obj-C wrappers to interface with C++ code and every time it feels like diving into a cesspit.