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jsheard ◴[] No.42143406[source]
From the GitHub this is only capable of 3DoF tracking, which puts it in the same category as the defunct Oculus Go headset, or Google Cardboard. 6DoF is really the bare minimum to qualify as proper VR nowadays.

For the uninitiated 3DoF means the headset only tracks the rotation of your head, not your heads absolute position as you move around, while 6DoF tracking does both. 6DoF is also much harder to implement.

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chii ◴[] No.42143534[source]
3dof is sufficient, imho, for a large number of VR use cases, because most people don't have a full room dedicated to it, but is at a desk. Sitdown VR setups would be more common, if the equipment was cheaper.
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LorenDB ◴[] No.42143591[source]
Having experienced both 6DOF and 3DOF on my Quest 3, I can confidently say that 6DOF is leagues ahead even if you are sitting in a chair. Unless you are watching a 180° stereoscopic video, you'll want to look around to get the full experience, and even the small translation movements that result when you turn around can make the experience nauseating.

Besides, VR is already cheap. A new Quest 3S is just $300 and can do pretty much all of what the $3500 Vision Pro can do (just worse); if you just want VR games you can get used 6DOF-capable PCVR or PSVR headsets on eBay for closer to $100.

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jachee ◴[] No.42143936[source]
> Quest3S … pretty much all of what the … VisionPro can do

It can’t do that “protecting your privacy” thing. And that’s a dealbreaker for many, many people.

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1. TiredOfLife ◴[] No.42145480[source]
Quest is “protecting your privacy” the same amount as VisionPro does.
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2. 1oooqooq ◴[] No.42146255[source]
why i don't have either.

this line of argument don't help the discussion.

both companies report millions from selling your information, so assume they are always amassing loads of it, to sell when the price is convenient for them.

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3. criddell ◴[] No.42146496[source]
> both companies report millions from selling your information

Where can I buy it?

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4. exe34 ◴[] No.42146678{3}[source]
This might help start looking: https://www.forbes.com/sites/metabrown/2015/09/30/when-and-w...
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5. criddell ◴[] No.42146741{4}[source]
Doesn’t help at all. I’m looking to buy data collected and sold by Meta and Apple.
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6. exe34 ◴[] No.42146813{5}[source]
I doubt they sell it to individuals. Data brokers is the easiest way. You could always write to them directly and ask.
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7. Mindwipe ◴[] No.42147639{6}[source]
You absolutely can't because neither company does it.
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8. 1oooqooq ◴[] No.42147809{5}[source]
you're either too poor or not well connected.

the "accessible" way is to enter a real time "header" biding agreement. but chances are you don't know about it either and is just making noise.

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9. bornfreddy ◴[] No.42147828{7}[source]
This is just a profit calculation though. Do they earn more by keeping and mining this information or by selling it, or both? For now they might not be selling it (I don't know), but that can change before you say "but GDPR...".
10. criddell ◴[] No.42148115{6}[source]
Okay, well then let me ask you a question that should be easier to answer: where does Apple report that they make millions from selling user data?