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New Apple security feature reboots iPhones after 3 days, researchers confirm

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286 points joegibbs | 5 comments | 15 Nov 24 01:55 UTC | HN request time: 1.038s | source
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SoftTalker ◴[15 Nov 24 02:32 UTC] No.42143463[source]▶
If this is true, then it's a trivial enhancement to make that a configurable setting. 72 hours could be the default, if your security needs are higher, you could turn that down to 12 hours, or even less.
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chatmasta ◴[15 Nov 24 03:22 UTC] No.42143699[source]▶
If this were configurable, I would make it 30 minutes and increase it if I noticed any inconvenience. But I doubt that I would. I already have my phone in permanent do-not-disturb (so a reboot causing delayed notifications wouldn't be an issue), and it's not like I mind entering my passcode instead of FaceID every 30 minutes.
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bigiain ◴[15 Nov 24 05:55 UTC] No.42144287[source]▶
I don't trust FaceID (technically, I don' trust the cops with FaceID), so I'm entering my (6 digit) PIN every time I take my phone out of my pocket anyway. The only thing that'd make me hesitate to set this down to single digit minutes would be the risk of missed calls/notifications while the phone reboots.
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astrange ◴[15 Nov 24 07:05 UTC] No.42144555[source]▶
If you're outside the house that's less secure, because a security camera or a shoulder surfer can see your PIN.
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1. curious_ralts ◴[15 Nov 24 08:54 UTC] No.42145072[source]▶
Graphene has a feature exactly for this which shows a shuffled unlock screen
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2. saagarjha ◴[15 Nov 24 10:10 UTC] No.42145489[source]▶
This sounds like an excellent way to make it even easier for people to watch you enter your PIN.
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3. cubesnooper ◴[15 Nov 24 16:36 UTC] No.42148462[source]▶
Once you’ve had the PIN scramble turned on for a while, it becomes second nature. I enter my GrapheneOS scrambled PIN about as quickly as the unscrambled PIN on my non‐GrapheneOS work phone. But it’s more of a defense against figuring out my PIN from the finger marks on my screen.

In environments where shoulder surfing is a concern, I prefer to use the multiple profiles feature: log out of my main profile (which is actually a secondary profile) to completely evict its keys from memory, and switch to a burner secondary profile containing no personal data, which unlocks with my fingerprint for convenience.

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4. saagarjha ◴[16 Nov 24 09:51 UTC] No.42155557{3}[source]▶
I am curious what you do with a phone that has no personal data beyond, like, call people whose number you have memorized and maybe look something up
5. chatmasta ◴[17 Nov 24 03:15 UTC] No.42161715{3}[source]▶
Second nature or not, I’m not sure how this protects you against the security camera watching you enter the passcode. I guess you’re hoping it can’t read the digit on each key?