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ryandrake ◴[] No.42142148[source]
People blame the cookie banners themselves or the legislation that "made them necessary" but somehow never seem to blame the web companies for doing the naughty things on their websites that make them subject to the law.

The "cookie banner problem" exists because it's primarily end users that are shouldering the burden of them, and not the companies. For the company, it's a one time JIRA ticket for a junior software engineer to code up a banner. For everyone else, it's thousands of wasted seconds per year. Make the law hit companies where it hurts: their balance sheets.

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1. IshKebab ◴[] No.42142251[source]
Well yeah because the "naughty things" are totally allowed. Can you blame them for trying to make money legally, and most people would say fairly morally (most people in the real world; not on HN).

I think 90% of the blame lies with the EU. They had experience from the cookie law that this would happen.

It like... say you would rather people didn't drink alcohol in pubs (because of all the scary violence it leads to). You can

1. Ban alcohol in pubs.

2. Allow alcohol in pubs.

3. Allow alcohol in pubs but only if people recite the lord's prayer before every purchase.

3. is obviously a dumb choice, yet it's the one they chose.

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2. doublerabbit ◴[] No.42142343[source]
D: Drink in pubs till 10pm including no alcohol purchases after 10.

That's the law here in Scotland. As annoying as it is, the same law doesn't apply in the rest of the UK but it's reasonable.

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3. IshKebab ◴[] No.42144738[source]
Sure, and that's a perfectly reasonable law. There's no "oh you actually can sell alcohol after 10pm as long as your customers fill in a 5 page form, which is what the EU has caused.
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4. doublerabbit ◴[] No.42145573{3}[source]
If you're using third party cookies you have to display a "please consent" button.

If you're not, then all you need is a privacy policy somewhere stating that you use cookies and that they are all first party.

That seems fair to me. I like to know if cookies are used or not regardless if they are site or third party only.

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5. IshKebab ◴[] No.42150212{4}[source]
It's perfectly fair, but it's also extremely annoying. That's the whole point.