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Daisy, an AI granny wasting scammers' time

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706 points ortusdux | 9 comments | 14 Nov 24 16:52 UTC | HN request time: 1.309s | source | bottom
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dmurray ◴[14 Nov 24 17:28 UTC] No.42138633[source]▶
This is cool when some independent hacker / artist does it as "Lemmy".

When a big telecom does it, the second thing they do with it is to fuck up the spam detection so bad that every third phone call I make gets answered by "Daisy".

And just think about it - why would a telecom need this tech? They can already drop the spam calls and stop routing calls from the bad actor telecoms who enable the spammers. They don't do that because they prefer to collect a few cents a call from them rather than serve their customers better. It's everyone else who needs this.

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waiwai933 ◴[14 Nov 24 17:42 UTC] No.42138812[source]▶
They're not intercepting calls over their network from suspected bad actors; rather, they've created some phone numbers that always go to Daisy - see https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/virgin-media-o...
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axus ◴[14 Nov 24 17:50 UTC] No.42138918[source]▶
Ah! So step 2 is wait for the spammers to automate blacklisting of Daisy phone numbers, and only then start rolling out a (paid) Daisy option to customers.

Not connecting calls doesn't waste spammer money, but maybe Daisy does.

If the big telco can find 10 righteous callers from a a bad actor telecom, they should keep routing the calls.

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1. ensignavenger ◴[14 Nov 24 18:21 UTC] No.42139344[source]▶
Then, once the spammers have blacklisted the Daisy numbers, cycle those spam-free numbers to their customers and start a new batch of Daisy numbers. This way, there is a constant flow of spammer free numbers being cycled into the pool. Of course, everyone and their dog wants your phone number, so you will have to be careful who you give it to if you want it to stay spam-free.
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2. ronsor ◴[14 Nov 24 19:19 UTC] No.42140039[source]▶
> Then, once the spammers have blacklisted the Daisy numbers, cycle those spam-free numbers to their customers and start a new batch of Daisy numbers.

This is actually genius. The spammers will have blacklisted all of their targets eventually.

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3. lhamil64 ◴[14 Nov 24 19:51 UTC] No.42140424[source]▶
Until they catch on and un-blacklist the numbers periodically.
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4. Szpadel ◴[14 Nov 24 20:38 UTC] No.42140949{3}[source]▶
we all know the end game: ai scammer talking to ai granny
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5. flir ◴[14 Nov 24 21:13 UTC] No.42141287{4}[source]▶
As long as the scammer's paying to route the call, I'm ok with this. And the telcos' fitness function for their pool of robogrannies should be time-spent-on-call. Making it uneconomic is the way to kill it.
6. dools ◴[14 Nov 24 23:24 UTC] No.42142375{4}[source]▶
AI Guilfoyle and AI Dinesh
7. etlabaume ◴[15 Nov 24 08:25 UTC] No.42144917{4}[source]▶
Half of the spam calls I get today are AI. And I get more or less one spam call a day.
8. red-iron-pine ◴[15 Nov 24 18:28 UTC] No.42149520{4}[source]▶
dead internet theory, telco edition.

presumably someone is still getting charged for calls and AI -- and therefore someone is making money -- in this situation though, non?

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