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PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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churchill ◴[14 Nov 24 01:09 UTC] No.42132087[source]▶
Whenever I see these news & FBI releases about Chinese state-sponsored hackers breaching systems in America, I wonder whether the same thing happens over there: American malware and hacker groups attacking & laying landmines in China's internet infrastructure, although the Chinese may not publicize these exploits because their system opts to maintain an air of invincibility.
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TechDebtDevin ◴[14 Nov 24 03:25 UTC] No.42132850[source]▶
Yes, the US famously has breached foreign infrastructure. In Confessions of an Economic Hitman[0], Josh Perkins discusses how he knows on good authority the US could shutdown the Japanese electrical grid with relative ease if needed, which an ally. Imagine what they do to perceived enemies.

[0]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2159.Confessions_of_an_E...

This book was on of my favorite books to site in extemporaneous speaking events.

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morpheuskafka ◴[14 Nov 24 17:08 UTC] No.42138325[source]▶
The US famously compromised the Greek phone switches a while back, which were written in Erlang and thus so was the malware (correction--it was actually the proprietary predecessor to Erland, called PLEX). An telecom employee died under mysterious circumstances in the aftermath and the US Embassy in Athens was found to have close ties to the individuals involved; a CIA employee was later charged and fled back to the US. All in a days work for the "leaders of the free world."
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1. mikrotikker ◴[14 Nov 24 17:56 UTC] No.42139008[source]▶
Wasn't it that the Greek govt allowed the NSA in to monitor the Olympics but they overstayed their welcome?
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2. morpheuskafka ◴[15 Nov 24 16:35 UTC] No.42148448[source]▶
They were invited to provide some kind of assistance, but I can't imagine they were given the green light to upload arbitrary code into the countrywide telephone exchange without notifying the Greeks at all, or providing a copy of it.

It's not just that they added Greek officials phones to the monitoring list alongside legitimate suspects, but the whole program itself was hidden. Nor is it clear how the US could have forwarded any legitimate threats captured without admitting the whole program.

The whole Olympics rationale is a bit weird too. Yes, it is a big event and there have been a few terrorist attacks in its history, but relatively few considering its huge scale. Also, almost every state actor is participating and thus unlikely to cause any major trouble. It's a big propaganda thing for most of the US-order enemies. It doesn't really make sense why the NSA would have been authorized such extensive access, to the exclusion of the host country's own personnel, instead of requesting help from neighboring EU countries that already presumably cooperate on law enforcement.

That sounds like a cover story the US made up to change it from "act of war" level to "oops we forgot to ask if this was okay."