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briandear[dead post] ◴[] No.42131334[source]
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rgrieselhuber ◴[] No.42136236[source]
“All the people flocking to Bluesky — were you outraged at the Covid censorship and Hunter Biden laptop election interference in October 2020?”

And the same gaslighting was echoed here on HN as well, don’t hold your breath for any such acknowledgement though.

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consteval ◴[] No.42137725[source]
1. nobody cares about Hunter's laptop. Even the GOP doesn't care, they just pretend to care for outrage, meaning it's just rage bait. Hunter Biden isn't related to anything to do with politics

2. Covid censorship. In case we've all forgotten, over 500,000 Americans died due to Covid. There was a lot of misinformation spread around Covid. This misinformation costs lives. Now, granted, it's not necessarily intentional misinformation because Covid was novel. So, our understanding was constantly changing. But telling people to, say, inject bleach or take horse tranquilizers is legitimately irresponsible.

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1. rgrieselhuber ◴[] No.42138375[source]
1. Maybe you don’t care but if nobody else cared then the entirety of legacy media would not have gone into overdrive to gaslight the American public about its existence.

2. I’m not aware of anyone telling people to inject bleach or horse tranquilizers. Have a citation for that? If not, you’re the one spreading misinformation.

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2. consteval ◴[] No.42138630[source]
1. No it's not just me, nobody cared. It was feigned outrage. The GOP has been much more focused on Hunter Biden's large penis and crack addition. It's media fodder, nothing more.

2. You're not aware of Trump? I have next to no patience for those who intentionally play stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/ivermectin-an...

My mistake, I've gotten ivermectin and ketamine mixed up. It's a horse dewormer, not a horse tranquilizer.

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3. rgrieselhuber ◴[] No.42138705[source]
1. According to you

2. Bleach was debunked: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-inject-bleach-covid-...

It's not playing stupid, you're just not getting a free pass with this sort of rhetoric.

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4. consteval ◴[] No.42138801{3}[source]
1. According to anyone paying attention. Again, if you actually look at the media coverage and what GOP members choose to talk about, it's mostly penis and crack.

Does penis and crack relate to democracy? No. Then this is objective. Additionally, Hunter is not even in politics. I mean, come ON now.

2. It was not "debunked". Many people believed that's what he said, and they spread that information around - this is called misinformation.

This isn't the only misinformation around Covid. There were people saying masks kills brain cells because of CO2 (false). There were people saying masks don't work and raise your risk of Covid (false). There were people saying the Covid vaccine makes you more likely to get Covid (false). There were people saying there are microchips in the Covid vaccine (false). And on and on.

Nobody is trying to censor conservatives. It's just that, well, 99% of the people saying this stuff are conservative. So where does that leave us?

> It's not playing stupid, you're just not getting a free pass with this sort of rhetoric.

No, it's playing stupid. None of this is groundbreaking information and I know that you already know it. If I have to tell you things you already know, that means you're playing stupid.

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5. rgrieselhuber ◴[] No.42138949{4}[source]
This is obviously going nowhere, but things are a little different now anyway.

What was tried in 2020 and 2021 ultimately didn't work and it won't work going forward. Censorship is being deprecated.

You're free to say and think whatever you want. The good thing is, we all are.

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6. consteval ◴[] No.42139087{5}[source]
To be clear, I'm not pro-censorship. And, to further be clear, there is zero first amendment infringement when private corporations silence your voice. This is the free market at play.

I'm merely demonstrating why private companies chose to censor. Misinformation during a health crisis isn't free - it costs lives. They don't want to be responsible; they don't want that on their shoulders. So they just silenced the "vaccines cause autism!" crowd and moved on.

The reason conservatives are "targeted" is not because they're conservative, but rather because their platform is being based on lies more and more as time goes on. Science denial, conspiracy theories, a lack of care for human life - these tendencies are rampant in some conservative communities.

This isn't fixed going forward, it's only getting worse. It's gotten so bad that a lot of conservatives won't even listen to Trump. Seriously, they think quoting Trump is misinformation. This abject detachment from reality is very concerning to me. It's absolutely unnerving that you can't even ask conservatives for their own platform and beliefs anymore.

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7. rgrieselhuber ◴[] No.42139337{6}[source]
"And, to further be clear, there is zero first amendment infringement when private corporations silence your voice."

Couldn't agree more!

If you don't like it, just go build your own multi-billion dollar private tech company funded also by taxpayer money.