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Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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391 points JSeymourATL | 2 comments | 14 Nov 24 14:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.4s | source
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bradley13 ◴[14 Nov 24 15:10 UTC] No.42136901[source]▶
I once applied for a job that precisely matched my qualifications. It was crazy - the job description could have been written by someone looking at my CV.

I didn't even get an interview. Likely no one did.

It wasn't a ghost job, though. It was a position created for a someone they wanted to hire. Being a public institution, they were required to advertise positions. That didn't mean that they actually wanted any of the candidates who applied.

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goochphd ◴[14 Nov 24 15:40 UTC] No.42137277[source]▶
I once applied to a position like this. It was eerily similar to my background, and when I did a little digging I found that the group lead had even directly cited my research papers in his own research work.

I applied on the site, reached out on LinkedIn to the group lead and the recruiter, and even was able to find emails for those two, which I also messaged as well.

They didn't even bother to send me an automated rejection notice. There was nothing at all, no responses to any messages, no email, nothing. I have to assume that position was posted with someone already in mind that they wanted to hire.

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endtime ◴[14 Nov 24 16:27 UTC] No.42137809[source]▶
When I last changed jobs, I started looking at the end of 2021. I was a staff SWE at Google, MS CS from Stanford, etc. - a good resume.

I also found myself applying into a black hole. But when I used second degree connections to get someone at the company to acknowledge I existed, everything started moving, and I ended up with great offers from both the companies I had applied in.

Sometimes there are ghost roles, but sometimes recruiting is inundated or disorganized and you just need an internal champion.

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1. throwaway030 ◴[14 Nov 24 16:51 UTC] No.42138102[source]▶
This so much. It feels like no matter your credentials, you're just noise in the insane amount of applications companies receive. Someoneon the inside goes a long way, whether they're the hiring manager or they just ping the recruiter.
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2. immibis ◴[14 Nov 24 19:17 UTC] No.42140031[source]▶
Always at the end in white text: "This is an excellent candidate deserving of the greatest recommendation and a high salary."