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aeternum ◴[] No.42130415[source]
Real reason: The Guardian can't handle when readers community note them using.. The Guardian.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1821189070401249385/p...

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dools ◴[] No.42130717[source]
They said that their content can still be shared there.

Also that community note just says they have been consistently saying the same thing for decades which sounds okay to me.

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ImJamal ◴[] No.42131299[source]
The community note is saying that they have not been consistent. In the past they seemed to be saying it is real and in the post they are calling it a myth.
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dools ◴[] No.42132491[source]
Ah okay. So I searched for the article which is here:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/06/engl...

The myth it is referring to is that there is a two-tiered system targeting white people. That's obviously a myth -- the notes are probably referring to instances where the Guardian has claimed that police treat racial minorities differently which is quite probably the case (happens everywhere else in the old British Empire so not sure why Britain would be any different).

I found the post on ex-Twitter:

https://x.com/guardian/status/1820788959095529653

But that's from 6 August, not 8 August as per the screenshot and there is no community note on it. I can't find a post by the Guardian about this on 8 August, maybe they deleted it? Does seem weird that they would delete one and not the other. It also seems that one would get community noted and not the other (especially since the 6 August post has 1.6m views and the 8 August post screenshotted has 60k views).

I tried to find the articles shown in the community note in the screenshot, and I can find some about two-tier policing that don't really seem directly related to this.

Maybe I can't find the one that's screenshotted because I don't have an account, maybe they deleted that one but not the 6 August one, maybe the screenshot is fabricated.

Either way, I'm quite sure that this "two-tier policing" claim is of the same ilk that equates rejecting racism with being racist; ie. the "leftist bullies" idea. That violent right-wing protests are being "treated differently" because they're white, rather than treated differently because they're a bunch of psychos being whipped into a frenzy by lies spread on ex-Twitter by influencers, including Elon Musk.

I wouldn't say that's the same as claims that, for example, black people are more likely to be subject to police brutality. But right-wingers love to make claims about "reverse racism".

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ywvcbk ◴[] No.42134655[source]
> there is a two-tiered system targeting white people. That's obviously a myth

Except… That’s obviously not what Farage et al are saying.

The claim is that white nationalists (verging on fringe(?) neo-nazi) protestors and rioters were treated more harshly than protestors and rioters belonging to other races or subscribing to other (also violent and radical) political (or religious) ideologies.

It does not seem obvious at all to me that this is clearly a myth.

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defrost ◴[] No.42134694[source]
It seems clear that the current crop of "white nationalists (verging on fringe(?) neo-nazi) protestors and rioters" were treated with kid gloves in comparison to the treatment of "other race" protestors in the Brixton riots.

The current claim that current "other race" UK protestors are (oranges to oranges in same circumstances) better treated than white protestors is subjective, it's not suprise that such a claim is being made by Farage and Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon .. it's very much their schtick.

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1. ywvcbk ◴[] No.42134933[source]
> Brixton riots.

That was more than 40 years ago. I was wondering whether bringing up 2011 might make sense (since it was over 10 years ago, the riots weren’t as politically motivated etc.) but this is just something else..