Looking for a Job Is Tough

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Plasmoid ◴[14 Nov 24 03:19 UTC] No.42132822[source]▶

There are just piles and piles of companies out there trying to hire but are absolutely obsessed with having people work in their terrible SF offices.

I don't get it. If these companies really believed that working in an office was so beneficial they would invest in them. But they all come across like "I need an office to appear like a real company but I don't want to spend a lot of money". They're these millennial gray warehouses rocking the sad-bachelor aesthetic.

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1. aprilthird2021 ◴[14 Nov 24 08:45 UTC] No.42134252[source]▶

>>42132822 #

They're not obsessed. There are tons of qualified people looking for such jobs, so they can afford to make demands like this

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2. rachofsunshine ◴[14 Nov 24 18:30 UTC] No.42139460[source]▶

>>42134252 (TP) #

It isn't cheap, though. You burn something on the order of 80k a hire to hire in-office, probably more if you're specifically looking in SF or NYC.

Those roles are going to get squeezed pretty fast as the market heats up.

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3. red-iron-pine ◴[15 Nov 24 18:24 UTC] No.42149487[source]▶

>>42139460 #

okay I know hiring is expensive, but 80k? are you buying these candidates first class flights with caviar?

even at $300+ per hour of engineer time, I can interview 10 candidates with several engineers, and even fly promising ones out, for less than that, while using ATS systems like Taleo.

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4. ssivark ◴[15 Nov 24 21:38 UTC] No.42151433{3}[source]▶

>>42149487 #

I think they are referring to the annual salary differential to hire a similar skill-set for someone working remotely -vs- someone regularly coming in to the office in SF/NYC.

5. aprilthird2021 ◴[15 Nov 24 23:07 UTC] No.42152316[source]▶

>>42139460 #

Sure, but the productivity gains are probably worth to such companies. Also the costs probably go down per person the more people you put in the same office

6. rachofsunshine ◴[18 Nov 24 16:01 UTC] No.42173647{3}[source]▶

>>42149487 #

It cuts your candidate pool by a factor of five or ten, and adds about 30k a year of comp demands (a number which will grow as engs get less desperate in a warming market).

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