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alexey-salmin ◴[] No.42130555[source]
> I have seen many fans, in the face of being told the reason for these changes, say that it doesn’t matter because they aren’t personally epileptic. This is, as you might understand, incredibly personally frustrating, and yes, very ableist. In saying this, these fans claim that disabled people do not have a right to feel safe when watching their favorite series, and that their wellbeing doesn’t matter in comparison to a few brighter shots of teenagers using their magic powers to punch each other.

I don't get it. Why is it bad wanting to see the unsafe version for yourself?

> Over 2500 fans signed a change.org petition asking Crunchyroll to take down this edited, safe, version of the series and instead upload an unedited version that was true to the original vision—even if it had the potential to cause seizures.

That's not how I read the petition in question. People are asking to get access to the original that they know exist. I can't find a paragraph that demands deletion of the edited safe version.

>> As fans, we implore Crunchyroll to try to acquire an uncut version of the simulcast as we are paying good money each month for the services they provide.

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xethos ◴[] No.42132281[source]
> I don't get it. Why is it bad wanting to see the unsafe version for yourself?

Because, as shown in Japan and called out in TFA, even those without a history of seizures can have them. These can be bad enough, even in those with no history of seizures, to warrant a visit to the ER.

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notpushkin ◴[] No.42132681[source]
Yeah, but if I know that and still want to try it?
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handoflixue ◴[] No.42132910{3}[source]
No one is stopping you from tracking it down and watching it; the request is merely that it not be the version aired on TV, nor the default on streaming media like Crunchyroll. That seems like a pretty reasonable middle ground to me - if you can only host one version, host the safe version. If you want to host multiple versions, feel free to add the unsafe cut as an alternative.
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1. throwaway290 ◴[] No.42133200{4}[source]
It is not middle ground if it requires breaking the law...

"Not enough money? No one is stopping you from defrauding someone or robbing a bank"

Edit: I meant piracy

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2. handoflixue ◴[] No.42133323[source]
I think you might be responding to the wrong thread? My comment had nothing to do with illegal behavior
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3. bmicraft ◴[] No.42135950[source]
Well, how do you "track something down" when it isn't provided through official channels?
4. alphan0n ◴[] No.42139981[source]
https://archive.org/details/pokemon-banned-episode-collectio...
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5. notpushkin ◴[] No.42170131[source]
Three’s a lot of stuff on Archive.org that isn’t exactly legal to distribute (and I’m not sure if they have some kind of exception because they are nonprofit or publishers just don’t care to send DMCA notices). I’m glad such a place exists, though.
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6. alphan0n ◴[] No.42198058{3}[source]
For sure, and given that the creators of this have refused to release or license it, it’s doubtful that any legal method of viewing it exists or ever will. Yet it has captured people’s curiosity, and that gives some merit to archival, abandoned as it is.

At least the Internet Archive is bereft of advertising and malware that scourges most piracy sites.