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PRC Targeting of Commercial Telecommunications Infrastructure

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churchill ◴[14 Nov 24 01:09 UTC] No.42132087[source]▶
Whenever I see these news & FBI releases about Chinese state-sponsored hackers breaching systems in America, I wonder whether the same thing happens over there: American malware and hacker groups attacking & laying landmines in China's internet infrastructure, although the Chinese may not publicize these exploits because their system opts to maintain an air of invincibility.
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cyp0633 ◴[14 Nov 24 03:34 UTC] No.42132909[source]▶
According to Chinese state media, the US installed malware in systems in Chinese universities tied with military, e.g. Northwestern Polytechnical University
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1. throwaway290 ◴[14 Nov 24 04:30 UTC] No.42133176[source]▶
According to Chinese state media, Chinese state media is never wrong
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2. cyp0633 ◴[14 Nov 24 04:59 UTC] No.42133284[source]▶
Believe it or not, it's up to you; the same goes with FBI
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3. 0dayz ◴[14 Nov 24 08:55 UTC] No.42134311[source]▶
The FBI is not the same as a news agency however.

So that point is null.

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4. cyp0633 ◴[14 Nov 24 10:32 UTC] No.42134845{3}[source]▶
Both depend on whether you believe in the government actually. When we say "Chinese state media", we're really talking about a media controlled by the government, especially for those political topics
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5. 0dayz ◴[14 Nov 24 14:40 UTC] No.42136513{4}[source]▶
This would be true even with private actors, at the end of the day it's whoever has concrete evidence of something taking place.

If the FBI is going to make the broad statement that China is hacking the USA, it'll have to back that statement up by evidence presented in court against individuals the FBI has investigated for hacking into US companies/government orgs.

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6. cyp0633 ◴[15 Nov 24 01:30 UTC] No.42143123{5}[source]▶
Seems that you just don't believe the other side has done some investigation and therefore did not search for it. I'm not saying that either incident is fake but you've just proved my point of view.
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7. throwaway290 ◴[15 Nov 24 04:26 UTC] No.42143960{6}[source]▶
You are correct that we choose what to believe based on what we think is more likely or useful. We don't have time to research all the things

But that is not relevant to point that Chinese state media (which is in a way all their media, like becoming in Russia now) is wrong and lies regularly but will never undermine the cult of personality at the top of the government that owns it by admitting the lies.

To deny that you need to go all tinfoil on me and say most instances where they lied is made up by the West. Like idk Tiananmen didn't happen or whatever. If you believe that then sure.

8. golergka ◴[15 Nov 24 05:05 UTC] No.42144098[source]▶
FBI have admitted it was wrong in a number of high profile cases, so no, FBI is not always right according to FBI.
9. 0dayz ◴[16 Nov 24 09:59 UTC] No.42155584{6}[source]▶
I don't believe any side who doesn't present in a good evidence based way, in other words verifiable and or replicable data.

On that front China has a far worse track record and institutions that uses evidence based truth telling.