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Looking for a Job Is Tough

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thw09j9m ◴[] No.42132752[source]
This is the toughest market I've ever seen. I easily made it to on-sites at FAANG a few years ago and now I'm getting resume rejected by no-name startups (and FAANG).

The bar has also been raised significantly. I had an interview recently where I solved the algorithm question very quickly, but didn't refactor/clean up my code perfectly and was rejected.

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trentnix ◴[] No.42132828[source]
I’m not sure the bar has been raised. It’s been weirded, but not raised.
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realityfactchex ◴[] No.42132918[source]
Weirded how, if you don't mind elaborating slightly?

For example, does it mean: the actual skill level (e.g., smartness) people actually look for and hire hasn't changed, but the activities that hiring teams require candidates to have experience with are (seemingly weirdly) not a great thing to need anyway and therefore lots of great candidates end up twiddling their thumbs?

In that way, the "height" of the bar is the same, but it's a "weird" bar, in that one could have to accept it for what it is, or even stoop to it, or perhaps shift over to it, in order to pass it?

Or more that the overall interview experiences are weird caricatures in and of themselves?

Weird is a great word, but it can be a little non-specific, so I'm left curious about the intended usage/meaning.

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1. trentnix ◴[] No.42133003[source]
Many companies are filtering candidates in favor of mercenaries while pretending they are looking for dependable, committed professionals.

If you don’t have specific experience with some CTOs favorite esoteric API or don’t have experience in the same, specific corner of some insurance or usury industry, your ability to actually engineer solutions is considered irrelevant.

It’s as if the industry has forgotten that building software is about the application of algorithms to data structures to accomplish some user need. Instead, company after company wants to hot glue some service via some API using some framework on some cloud platform. And because the MBA decision-maker can write Excel macros with GPT, we don’t need programmers to build systems anymore. Just wire up foo SaaS to bar SaaS and MVPFailFastLeanAgile our way to success!

Sorry for the rant…

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2. realityfactchex ◴[] No.42133054[source]
Thanks, much appreciated
3. dartos ◴[] No.42136301[source]
Yeah well what do recruiters know about software development?

They just know the keywords the EMs and C suite sent them in the headcount request.

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4. trentnix ◴[] No.42136348[source]
That EMs and the C-suite think solving their engineering needs is to add "headcount" is the bigger problem.
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5. dartos ◴[] No.42136479{3}[source]
That’s what they thought in 2021.

Now that money isn’t free, they think the problem is too many engineers.

6. scott_w ◴[] No.42137161[source]
> It’s as if the industry has forgotten that building software is about...

This really isn't new. A look at Slashdot will give you similar complaints as far back as at least the 2000s. I'm sure someone older than me will dig up Usenet posts with exactly the same complaints and tell me to get off their lawn ;-)

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7. svilen_dobrev ◴[] No.42138117[source]
> It’s as if the industry has forgotten that building software is about the application of algorithms to data structures to accomplish some user need

My 3 months experience searching - and getting only ~3-4 initial interviews - is the New-AI-Kids-on-Da-Block think software-engineering is just another plumbing for their Artificially Great Intelligence. One CEO even used the exact word.

waw. Plumbers make real good $$$..

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8. namaria ◴[] No.42138936[source]
They are just saying the quite part out loud now because they think they can finally get away with that.

Well when the discount plumbing they are getting put in starts to leak shit all over the place there will be a premium again in actually knowing how to do it properly.

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9. hombre_fatal ◴[] No.42139539{3}[source]
Though getting a job at the fixer consultancies they might use isn't any easier. :P
10. disgruntledphd2 ◴[] No.42155697[source]
If we'd had software engineers in Sumeria, there'd be a bunch of tablets with the same complaints;)