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0xbadcafebee ◴[] No.42130943[source]
I just don't understand why Amazon hates its employees so much. These are the people making you billions and billions of dollars. And their jobs very clearly do not require them to work in an office, nor does it sap productivity, as years of experience and multiple studies confirm. And people could previously work in the office if they wanted to, so it's not like anyone was alienated before.

It's like the execs are just sadists. There's no upside.

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sswaner ◴[] No.42131889[source]
Rather than call the Amazon execs liars and sadists perhaps consider that the senior execs (Andy and his directs) believe that they are responsible for crafting a successful company. It is far more plausible that they believe that while it may have worked to have remote workers, that they WANT a company that has the features of an in-office culture and feel it is within their right to take that path.

Unless you think that you would be a lying sadist if you rose the ranks to senior leadership, why do you think that the Amazon leaders are somehow different?

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1. 0xbadcafebee ◴[] No.42132764[source]
Actually I was being charitable. I was only assuming their decision is from spite. If I also assumed they thought this was good for the company in the long run, I'd have to assume they were idiots.

There is no rational, data-driven argument against optional remote work. Even the one downside of it (not getting promoted) could be solved by an employee just opting to go into the office.

Everything else is a plus, for the company and the employee. The company saves on real estate, salaries, can hire anywhere in the world, and gets increased productivity [and profit]. The employee gets flexible hours, choice of living arrangements, and improved quality of life, which then benefits the company as improved morale/loyalty.

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2. Wytwwww ◴[] No.42135500[source]
> There is no rational, data-driven argument against optional remote work

If we ignore tangentially relevant (from the company's perspective) stuff like employee wellbeing etc. the same could be said about WFH.

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3. consteval ◴[] No.42137901[source]
Sure, but employees are not machines and companies should realize this. Amazon is getting far too comfortable biting the hand that feeds them. Employees aren't underlings of your company; they ARE your company. The fact they all got together is what makes it a company. So, what happens if you hurt them?