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basilgohar ◴[] No.42132069[source]
> and the copying of certain information that was subject to U.S. law enforcement requests pursuant to court orders

Is this legal speak for saying, "They're using our backdoors without our permission."?

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1. toomuchtodo ◴[] No.42132267[source]
Yes, they leveraging CALEA mandated infrastructure.

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/10/16/wyden-calea-hack-proves-...

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_f...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_...

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2. sailfast ◴[] No.42132308[source]
Can you imagine if the proponents of the Clipper Chip had actually won the argument? Yeesh. This is inexcusable.
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3. davidw ◴[] No.42132411[source]
Wyden is so good on this stuff.
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4. toomuchtodo ◴[] No.42132467[source]
He is a treasure.
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6. rootusrootus ◴[] No.42132663[source]
He's getting up there in years, I hope he hangs out a while longer. We could use more senators like him.
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8. talldayo ◴[] No.42148813[source]
> Can you imagine if the proponents of the Clipper Chip had actually won the argument?

Given that 90% of smartphone hardware comes from 2-3 manufacturers, I actually can imagine it pretty well...