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no_wizard ◴[] No.42130354[source]
For a company that is supposedly data driven like Amazon likes to tout, they have zero data that RTO would provide the benefits they claim[0]. They even admitted as much[1].

I wouldn't be shocked if one day some leaked memos or emails come to light that prove it was all about control and/or backdoor layoffs, despite their PR spin that it isn't (what competent company leader would openly admit this?)

[0]: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/over-500-amazon-...

[1]: https://fortune.com/2023/09/05/amazon-andy-jassy-return-to-o...

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thegrim33 ◴[] No.42131509[source]
Amazon has existed for 30 years. For 26 of those years it was primarily an in office job, only temporarily shifting to WFH, where applicable, in response to a full blown global pandemic. Now that the global pandemic is sufficiently wrapped up, they're trying to go back to business as they're used to.

You, a random internet person, are claiming you know what's better for their business than they do. You claim that the CEO and all the Presidents and VPs and everyone involved in the decision have no data backing them? They're all just making this decision with no logical basis or internal data? You really claim you know better than them what's good for their business? It's not their job to provide data to you, random internet person, about their internal functioning and what they think is best for their company.

Linking to literally .032% of their workforce signing a letter saying that it just isn't fair to go back into the office, while once again not providing a single piece of data to bolster that opinion, is not evidence that your opinion is right.

I can't read your second link because it's behind a paywall and thus not accessible to 99.9% of the people reading your comment.

The fact that I'm already downvoted to negative karma really highlights the strength of the echo chamber involved.

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anigbrowl ◴[] No.42131545[source]
I can't read your second link because it's behind a paywall and thus not accessible to 99.9% of the people reading your comment.

It opens just fine in an incognito window. Failing that, you could use an alternative browser that doesn't have any cookies set. Failing that, you could look it up on archive.org. This would have taken less time than fulminating at an internet stranger.

This is Hacker News, after all.

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1. ipaddr ◴[] No.42131960[source]
Hackers are lazy at the core otherwise we wouldn't spend writing a program once so we never have to do it again.

Someone could do all of those things you list or form an opinion based on the title. Which way do you think a hacker would take?

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2. anigbrowl ◴[] No.42141872[source]
It would be foolish to do all the things when one is sufficient. It's also foolish to rely on superficial things like titles (which are written by editors, not the writer).