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alexey-salmin ◴[] No.42130555[source]
> I have seen many fans, in the face of being told the reason for these changes, say that it doesn’t matter because they aren’t personally epileptic. This is, as you might understand, incredibly personally frustrating, and yes, very ableist. In saying this, these fans claim that disabled people do not have a right to feel safe when watching their favorite series, and that their wellbeing doesn’t matter in comparison to a few brighter shots of teenagers using their magic powers to punch each other.

I don't get it. Why is it bad wanting to see the unsafe version for yourself?

> Over 2500 fans signed a change.org petition asking Crunchyroll to take down this edited, safe, version of the series and instead upload an unedited version that was true to the original vision—even if it had the potential to cause seizures.

That's not how I read the petition in question. People are asking to get access to the original that they know exist. I can't find a paragraph that demands deletion of the edited safe version.

>> As fans, we implore Crunchyroll to try to acquire an uncut version of the simulcast as we are paying good money each month for the services they provide.

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makeitdouble ◴[] No.42131144[source]
Reading from the petition:

> This petition may be pointless and may not affect the outcome of this season, but if not that, hopefully it can affect Crunchyrolls future simulcasts from suffering the same fate as Jujutsu Kaisen is right now.

I'm not a CR customer, have they ever offered multiple versions of their synchronized on air series (simulcast)?

I'd assume it would only be a single chosen version, with perhaps an alternative days or months after airing, but from an effort and financial perspective I wouldn't expect it.

At no point does the petition ask for separate versions (it argues the dimmed version make them nauseous), it's a commenter that surfaces the option, so I see TFA's point standing.

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1. brailsafe ◴[] No.42131223[source]
> As fans, we implore Crunchyroll to try to acquire an uncut version of the simulcast as we are paying good money each month for the services they provide.

Seems like they want Crunchyroll to offer it, I wasn't able to spot a mention of taking the safe one down; it's an uncharitable or invalid characterization on the part of the author imo

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2. makeitdouble ◴[] No.42131415[source]
The whole vibe of the petition was dismissive of the issues and only argued for getting the flashing version, so I understand author's view. E.g.

> These things are supposed to help prevent seizures, [...] the ghosting is almost making the visual stimuli worse as people have attested to feeling nauseous and dizzy from the obscene amounts of frame blending.

Emphasis mine.

I don't know how bad the blurring was in motion, but I read the petitioner's argument as "this version is worse in every way for reasons that are only hypothetical". I really don't see much room for a generous interpretation.

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3. Aeolun ◴[] No.42131671[source]
The generous interpretation that it makes them nauseous instead of giving them an epileptic attack.

I’m nearly certain for 90% of people the problem is entirely psychosomatic.

4. brailsafe ◴[] No.42139999[source]
Seems like the people who signed the petition feel like it's worse for them. Vibes are an interpretation, and I disagree about your interpretation, but you can only quote the words, not the words transposed based on what vibe you get, otherwise you run the risk of prejudice and slander.

I read it as "We'd like CR to seek an altered version, because we're not getting what we're laying for". The author said they asked to have the original taken down, followed by calling it ableist.

Is the latter really more correct, or is that what's seen through a cynical lens?

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5. brailsafe ◴[] No.42143230{3}[source]
Unaltered version*