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no_wizard ◴[] No.42130354[source]
For a company that is supposedly data driven like Amazon likes to tout, they have zero data that RTO would provide the benefits they claim[0]. They even admitted as much[1].

I wouldn't be shocked if one day some leaked memos or emails come to light that prove it was all about control and/or backdoor layoffs, despite their PR spin that it isn't (what competent company leader would openly admit this?)

[0]: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/over-500-amazon-...

[1]: https://fortune.com/2023/09/05/amazon-andy-jassy-return-to-o...

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changoplatanero ◴[] No.42130377[source]
How would you even gather data to support this? You can't a/b test company culture.
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legitster ◴[] No.42130451[source]
Even if you did, you couldn't do a proper A/B test without forcing at least some people into the office.
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ouddv ◴[] No.42130526[source]
There were some teams that never stopped coming to the office, due to sensitive aspects of their work.

And there's a boatload of data from centralized project management and ticketing systems, as well as centralized source repositories.

The data was absolutely available for data-driven arguments.

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1. regularfry ◴[] No.42130919[source]
Unfortunately you'd probably have to discount the teams that never switched to WFH. The same reasons that likely drove that decision would mean they're unlikely to be good comparators to teams that had a choice.
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2. AbstractH24 ◴[] No.42135227[source]
So what you are saying is “there’s no possible way to collect data on this, so just trust me even though I’m bias”
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3. regularfry ◴[] No.42136175[source]
That's a lot of words to shove in my mouth. At least buy me dinner first.