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alexey-salmin ◴[] No.42130555[source]
> I have seen many fans, in the face of being told the reason for these changes, say that it doesn’t matter because they aren’t personally epileptic. This is, as you might understand, incredibly personally frustrating, and yes, very ableist. In saying this, these fans claim that disabled people do not have a right to feel safe when watching their favorite series, and that their wellbeing doesn’t matter in comparison to a few brighter shots of teenagers using their magic powers to punch each other.

I don't get it. Why is it bad wanting to see the unsafe version for yourself?

> Over 2500 fans signed a change.org petition asking Crunchyroll to take down this edited, safe, version of the series and instead upload an unedited version that was true to the original vision—even if it had the potential to cause seizures.

That's not how I read the petition in question. People are asking to get access to the original that they know exist. I can't find a paragraph that demands deletion of the edited safe version.

>> As fans, we implore Crunchyroll to try to acquire an uncut version of the simulcast as we are paying good money each month for the services they provide.

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1. 999900000999 ◴[] No.42130678[source]
This is a giant liability issue for any company.

If you want the raw version, I'm sure it's out there...

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2. ballenf ◴[] No.42131847[source]
I'm skeptical unless the company has promised its shows to be safe for epileptics. Is this because it's for kids?

Anyone have a source for this?

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3. echelon ◴[] No.42131891[source]
Looks like this is it? (Seizure warning) :

https://youtu.be/7gOlodTlpwk (Seizure warning!)

It's about a minute of rapid red-to-blue cycles. It's fairly intense.

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4. fastball ◴[] No.42132162[source]
Oh wow, that is intense. Intense to the point that while watching it, I had to ask myself: "wait, am I 100% sure I'm not epileptic?"
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5. Uehreka ◴[] No.42132431[source]
> unless the company has promised its shows to be safe for epileptics

Many jurisdictions have regulations requiring this. It’s also not a tough criteria to fulfill. Most of the things you need to avoid are pretty obvious, and the less obvious things can be caught by automated tools. The blowback for creating or hosting epilepsy-triggering content is pretty intense. It’s not something most companies want to play around with.

I don’t get why people want CrunchyRoll to host this content so bad. It feels like people demanding to be able to set off firecrackers on a wheelchair ramp. Sure it probably won’t hurt anyone most of the time, but why do people want this one specific thing so badly when they can get it somewhere else?

6. small_scombrus ◴[] No.42132714[source]
If you host (and charge for access to) content that causes a seizure and don't have warnings & stuff then there's a good argument to be made that your negligence caused any seizures that may arise.

Especially if there's a perfectly good non-seizure causing version right there.

Promising that content won't cause seizures is one thing, knowing that it already has is another.

7. tim333 ◴[] No.42137884{3}[source]
Yeah. The Simpsons bit is funny https://youtu.be/3Eox1ogr3SE