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Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X

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243 points Jimmc414 | 12 comments | 13 Nov 24 20:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.61s | source | bottom
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seydor ◴[13 Nov 24 21:53 UTC] No.42130473[source]▶
Yann Lecun is also telling everyone on Twitter very loudly that he won't be posting on Twitter.

The Guardian in another article explains that they are annoyed because Musk used twitter to promote his preferred candidate.

The Guardian itself used their own platform to publicly endorse Harris.

This deja-vu of childish antics is just comical in 2024

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1. oneeyedpigeon ◴[13 Nov 24 22:06 UTC] No.42130620[source]▶
The Guardian is a newspaper with a long-proclaimed left-wing bias. Musk has claimed that X is politically neutral.
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2. whamlastxmas ◴[13 Nov 24 22:12 UTC] No.42130682[source]▶
X is hundreds of millions of people so it’s hard to claim it’s anything
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3. crabmusket ◴[13 Nov 24 22:14 UTC] No.42130716[source]▶
X refers to the company itself, not every user. And by extension naturally it should refer to the algorithms developed by the company.
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4. rurp ◴[13 Nov 24 22:28 UTC] No.42130870[source]▶
Musk claims a lot of things. Amplifying right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories, often from his own twitter account, is not politically neutral.
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5. DrBazza ◴[13 Nov 24 22:30 UTC] No.42130902[source]▶
Well, it is the Guardian leaving rather than being banned. If they think the site is unbalanced, then they’ve just made it worse.
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6. oneeyedpigeon ◴[13 Nov 24 22:36 UTC] No.42130964[source]▶
> If they think the site is unbalanced, then they’ve just made it worse.

Great point, and I think that's totally true. However, an organisation has to make the judgement call between staying on a failing (as they see it) platform in an attempt to rescue it, and leaving for an alternative that is less flawed. Clearly the Guardian thinks they stand little chance in affecting X in any meaningful way.

7. jslaby ◴[13 Nov 24 23:12 UTC] No.42131256[source]▶
It's not even amplified just from his account but the site itself. Create a new account and follow something like sports or entertainment.. then see what floods your feed. I logged in first time today, and it's quite shocking actually. Not a single left leaning account, just all maga that outnumbers the sports or whatever you clicked as interests.
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8. tzs ◴[14 Nov 24 00:43 UTC] No.42131903[source]▶
At least it provides some entertainment in seeing conspiracy theories I'd never heard of. Just now Twitter showed me a tweet about how offshore wind energy projects will lead to the rapid extinction of Right whales.

Apparently this is going to be the Trump administration's justification for trying to kill offshore wind power.

Of course as is par for the course the people who actually study and work with Right whales say that theory is wrong and there is little evidence of serious harm to the whales from such projects.

9. whamlastxmas ◴[14 Nov 24 01:47 UTC] No.42132309{3}[source]▶
The algos are public information so if there was bias it seems like it’d be fairly straightforward to show it
10. wruza ◴[14 Nov 24 03:34 UTC] No.42132903{3}[source]▶
Is it even strange, considering that elections just happened and who’s gonna be the new president?
11. rsynnott ◴[14 Nov 24 11:02 UTC] No.42135041[source]▶
> Musk has claimed that X is politically neutral

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-modifies-twitter-cod...

12. oneeyedpigeon ◴[14 Nov 24 13:39 UTC] No.42136037[source]▶
Exactly, that's my point. The Guardian makes no claims to be politically neutral.