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hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.42128314[source]
Perhaps someone with more knowledge can comment on why solutions like these can't be used to solve the energy storage problem. Is it just economics?

That is, renewables are now the cheapest form of energy by a significant margin, but they are unreliable with respect to timing, so a storage solution is necessary in order to provide electricity on cloudy days when the wind isn't blowing, at night, etc. Most of the research I've seen into solving the storage issue involves batteries or things like pumped hydro. If things like solar and wind were "overbuilt", could a solution like this be used to create hydrocarbons when there is excess electricity? Power prices already go negative in some places when it's particularly sunny/windy. If the excess energy at that time could be used to make gas that could then be utilized by gas plants, well then there is your net 0 storage solution.

I'm assuming solutions like this are uneconomic (and similarly with hydrogen plants, e.g. by using the excess renewable energy to generate green hydrogen by electrolysis for storage and later use), but I'd like to understand better why.

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1. rawgabbit ◴[] No.42128399[source]
There actually have been several solutions and some proofs of concept offered. However except for things like batteries, the purists object to all of them as green washing. Why, I don’t know.

Off the top of my head, I believe someone demonstrated you can add thermocouples to your water to generate electricity. The idea was that during excess electricity generation during the day by a homeowner’s solar panels, use that to heat up the existing water tank. At night, use the thermocouple to generate electricity from the hot water. Granted the efficiency is abysmal. But 5% of something is better than 0% which is what happens when the electricity is thrown away.