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Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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nfw2 ◴[] No.42072852[source]
I think part of All-In's success is that it has the vibe of a group of friends sitting around and shooting the breeze. It's way less academic than something like the Ezra Klein Show, but that's the point. Is there bloviating involved? All the time, especially from Chamath. Are there bad takes? Certainly. But it's entertaining.
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nerdponx ◴[] No.42074160[source]
Being confidently wrong about matters of public policy in front of a large audience is more than just an incidental bad take. It pollutes the public well of information and thereby does a disservice to society. You do not have a right to entertain yourself with something that damages the ability of society to make decisions and govern itself.
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vekker ◴[] No.42074919[source]
Problem is, the legacy media is confidently wrong about all kinds of matters too, all the time.

Why would they have the right to broadcast misinformation, and popular podcasters not?

The answer to this isn't censorship. It's in education and teaching people to think critically.

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nerdponx ◴[] No.42079588[source]
If you are being lied to, then the liars are at fault. If you know that you are being lied to and keep on listening without at least increasing your level of skepticism, then you are a collaborator and an enabler and a public-information-well-poisoner.

I maintain that you should not get a free pass to consume bullshit just because you personally find it entertaining, regardless of whether it comes from CNN or a podcast or a Tiktok account.

Libertarians might recognize this as the "harm principle" that they so often like to talk about, and then conveniently ignore when it doesn't turn out to align with the political right wing.

I am not saying anything about what we as a society should do about it. I have no idea what we should do about it. Attempting to censor all liars sounds like a catastrophe waiting to happen, for example.

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1. vekker ◴[] No.42090367[source]
You say you don't say anything about what we as a society should do about it, but it's definitely implied... or can be seen as such. Especially because it's quite a colored opinion - do you need a list of hoaxes and lies disseminated by the political left in the last 4 years?

Point is, everyone has biases, and everyone makes mistakes. We're only human. I think we should judge an information channel by the way they self-correct for those mistakes. That tells a lot about character and values, and whether or not to trust the source. So I believe we desperately need a meta layer on the Internet, much like X introduced with community notes, but on a larger scale. Open source, fully auditable, immutable (append-only and decentralized, so probably on a blockchain cause of the Byzantine Generals problem) - but I'll admit, that's just the tech geek in me trying to find a practical tech solution to a complex social problem.