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epolanski ◴[] No.42072079[source]
Not going to lie, I find it amusing the double standard where we all know through multiple whistleblowers and courts that the US government spies on virtually every person on this planet (including world leaders like Angela Merkel) yet it's such a concern that the Chinese government allegedly spies on random Joes dancing in their bedroom.

As an European those double standards and American exceptionalism (the idea that common laws and rules do not apply to US) will never cease to bother and annoy me.

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dghlsakjg ◴[] No.42072170[source]
What does Canada booting a Chinese company have to do with US companies in Europe?

You do know that Canada is not the US, and most Canadians do not identify or want to be seen as American.

In any case, the solution here is glaringly obvious. If you think that American companies pose a national security threat, or that they serve as unofficial tools of an adversarial government remove them from the country using legal means, just like Canada did.

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epolanski ◴[] No.42072305[source]
The double standard is in calling China an enemy when China has never done jack shit to Canada for allegedly spying through tik tok, but scolding off the southern neighbor which we have multiple proofs has put all Canadians under mass surveillance (from communication to movement) for which we have proofs and leaks by whistleblowers like Snowden or the AT&T guy.

That's what worries me, the easiness with which we label one as enemy, and assume the other one being normal.

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dghlsakjg ◴[] No.42072796[source]
China proveably opened illegal police stations in Canada. China arrested two Canadians and threw them in prison in pure retaliation when Canada detained a Chinese CEO in her mansion in Vancouver.

The issue here is that TikTok was allowing its offices to act on behalf of the CCP in opposition to Canadian interests. If we discover Google is running anti Canadian CIA ops we would have an issue with that as well.

The difference is presumably that Canada is happy to have google collect data since google is happy to cooperate with CSIS.

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epolanski ◴[] No.42074271[source]
You're deaf aren't you.

What you're pointing out is peanuts (in practice, and overblown in news) compared to your southern neighbour spying and meddling, so why are things that would be very minor such a huge issue?

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1. dghlsakjg ◴[] No.42079329[source]
I'm not deaf, but please don't use a disability as a slur for ignorance.

I'm not defending what the US has done, but compromising elected officials in the House of Parliament is not 'peanuts' by any measure, and it is something that China has done, and the US hasn't.

I also have never said that what the US is doing is acceptable.

If Google opened offices that were a CIA front posing a national security risk, I would expect them to be shown the door as well. From what I understand, the reason Bytedance had their offices shut down was because they were acting as a front for the CCP.