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Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada

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747 points empressplay | 6 comments | 06 Nov 24 23:04 UTC | HN request time: 1.3s | source | bottom
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not2b ◴[07 Nov 24 00:01 UTC] No.42071538[source]▶
Instead of the laser focus on TikTok as a threat, it would be better for the US and Canada to have real data protection laws that would apply equally to TikTok, Meta, Google, Apple, and X. What the EU has done is far from perfect but it bans the worst practices. The Chinese can buy all of the information they want on Americans and Canadians from ad brokers, who will happily sell them everything they need to track individuals' locations.

Perhaps the way to get anti-regulation politicians on board with this is for someone to do what was done to Robert Bork and legally disclose lots of personal info on members of Congress/Parliament, obtained from data brokers and de-anonymized.

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imgabe ◴[07 Nov 24 00:03 UTC] No.42071557[source]▶
It is not about the data. It’s about a foreign government controlling the algorithm that decides what millions of people see, and their ability to shape public opinion through that.

Like imagine if China owned CNN and the New York Times and decided what stories they could publish.

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bhouston ◴[07 Nov 24 00:58 UTC] No.42072050[source]▶
> Like imagine if China owned CNN and the New York Times and decided what stories they could publish.

It is happening on our local platforms here. Meta, based in the US, is systematically censoring Palestinian content that would otherwise be available here in Canada.

Details:

* https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/...

* https://theintercept.com/2024/10/21/instagram-israel-palesti...

For a very recent example, one of the few remaining prominent Palestinian journalists, with a following of over 1M on Meta, was banned today:

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/11/7/al-jaze...

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1. seanvelasco ◴[07 Nov 24 06:06 UTC] No.42073876[source]▶
can i have a dataset containing articles that were censored? these articles may be misinformation or openly sympathetic to terrorist organizations.

i'm quite happy with Meta handling the moderation on the conflict.

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2. ImPostingOnHN ◴[07 Nov 24 13:36 UTC] No.42076522[source]▶
Being openly sympathetic to the ongoing genocide of Palestinians is bad, so if your rule is being followed, we should expect to see an equally low amount of information from both sides of the conflict: the Israeli side and the Palestinian side.
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3. ImPostingOnHN ◴[07 Nov 24 18:21 UTC] No.42079311{3}[source]▶
> there is no genocide of Palestinians in Gaza

Sure, just like there is no terrorism in the middle east. We said it, so that makes it true.

Honestly though, I believe the rising islamophobia and anti-Palestinian attitudes owe to the proliferation of such content online. There is simply no denying an extremely disproportionate amount of hate speech and misinformation coming from the pro-Israel movement, backed by Israel and Israeli media, and directed towards Palestinians and those who oppose the genocide of them. I say this as a jewish person.

I'm just suggesting we remove the noise surrounding the conflict, by curbing the systemic spread of non-truths and hate speech by Israeli-backed disinformation campaigns. Just scroll through any social network or news post with comments. For every one mild post you see describing Israel's genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and The West Bank, you will find ten extremely islamophobic comments directed towards Palestinians who had nothing to do with the conflict.

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4. ImPostingOnHN ◴[07 Nov 24 19:55 UTC] No.42080245{5}[source]▶
If you are interested in discussion, I encourage you to post good faith replies, instead of calling people who don't agree with you, "trolls", an old and tired routine of internet trolls dating back decades.

What exactly do you take issue with? Your naked and hurtful assertions not being taken on blind faith? The fact that I, a person of jewish faith, see significantly less hate directed at me for it, than I do directed towards Palestinians and those who oppose the genocide of them?

5. anone9462 ◴[09 Nov 24 08:38 UTC] No.42093297{3}[source]▶
Your opponent justified himself that TikTok ban was necessary- he looked some antisemitic videos, and this is it, he promotes terrorism and antisemitism, totally falling under propaganda.
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6. ImPostingOnHN ◴[10 Nov 24 18:34 UTC] No.42101706{4}[source]▶
"Your opponent"?