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not2b ◴[] No.42071538[source]
Instead of the laser focus on TikTok as a threat, it would be better for the US and Canada to have real data protection laws that would apply equally to TikTok, Meta, Google, Apple, and X. What the EU has done is far from perfect but it bans the worst practices. The Chinese can buy all of the information they want on Americans and Canadians from ad brokers, who will happily sell them everything they need to track individuals' locations.

Perhaps the way to get anti-regulation politicians on board with this is for someone to do what was done to Robert Bork and legally disclose lots of personal info on members of Congress/Parliament, obtained from data brokers and de-anonymized.

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imgabe ◴[] No.42071557[source]
It is not about the data. It’s about a foreign government controlling the algorithm that decides what millions of people see, and their ability to shape public opinion through that.

Like imagine if China owned CNN and the New York Times and decided what stories they could publish.

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PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42073220[source]
I don't see how a foreign government or any foreign interest is worse than domestic interests (or governments).

The us is already one of the most propagandized nations on earth and our own government only benefits from this, despite ostensibly being criticized from sanitized angles.

I don't know what life is like in canada, but what i surmise from friends is that the experience is similar.

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prawn ◴[] No.42073285[source]
In theory, you can vote to influence your own government, but not the foreign interest.
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PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42073298[source]
Ok, but none of the domestic interests are (theoretically) controlled by the government and yet all are (evidently) at least as malicious.

I suppose this would be easier to rationalize if domestic interests were democratically controllable.... but they're not. And they certainly aren't by canadians, which makes this action doubly confusing.

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prawn ◴[] No.42073320[source]
People throughout this thread seem to disagree with your first point.
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1. PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42073642[source]
Hence the "(theoretically)" hedge. The theory for how control is maintained has been well-established for at least three decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

Nonetheless, this underlines the hypocrisy of punishing TikTok but not western corporations. By any standard (except for foreign control, which is of dubious merit when domestic control is equally harmful) Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc are equally of deserving of restriction as TikTok is.