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jmyeet ◴[] No.42072161[source]
Everybody needs to read Manufacturing Consent [1].

A big part of that is how the media is used to push a particular narrative. Every US tech company plays ball with the US government and moves in lockstep with US foreign policy.

The threat of Tiktok (to Western governments) is that allows users to see things that other platforms bury, downrank, outright block or otherwise censor.

A big example of this was the train derailment in East Palestine, OH [2] last year. I reember for at least a week seeing things about the chemical spill, the evacuations and the smoke from the burn (which was visible from space) and I saw absolutely nothing on mainstream media.

You see this in the last year where what's happening on the Middle East manages to get out on Tiktok in a way it really doesn't on IG, Youtube or Facebook [3]. Information simply cannot be tolerated to move as freely as this, hence the scare campaign about Chinese control of Tiktok.

That's why you don't see any effort to, say, have a data protection regime. The goal is to control what you're allowed to see.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

[2]: https://www.wired.com/story/east-palestine-ohio-train-derail...

[3]: https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/...

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1. lofenfew ◴[] No.42073028[source]
The opposing take is that the chinese government has a special interest in pushing the palestine narrative, which otherwise wouldn't be popular/of interest in the US. I personally don't give a shit about it, and I bet the same is true of most people. Naturally it wouldn't get very far on a normal social media without special effort directed towards promoting it.
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2. jmyeet ◴[] No.42073271[source]
> ... which otherwise wouldn't be popular/of interest in the US

I don't accept the premise that you can completely manufacture interest in something that people aren't interested in. The majority of people don't actually want US bombs being dropped on women and children and China didn't make them feel this way.

> I personally don't give a shit about it

That's a position of incredible privilege (and lack of empathy) because it doesn't affect you. Not everyone is unaffected. Not everyone lacks empathy.

> I bet the same is true of most people

You'd be wrong. Two thirds of Americans strongly or somewhat support a permanent ceasefire in Gaza [1]. Enough people cared about this to start a grassroots protest in the Democratic Primary, most notably the Michigan "Uncommitted" movement, which scared Democratic power brokers enough to get Biden to not seek reelection. And Gaza lost Michigan for Kamala Harris yesterday.

Be careful throwing out statements like "the same is true for most people" because where are you getting that from? You, like everyone, live in a bubble to some degree. The people around you are more likely to be similar to you. They're also a small sample and not entirely random. You need some empirical evidence or sound statistical sampling before you can start drawing conclusions.

[1]: https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/2/27/voters-suppor...