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Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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369 points paulpauper | 1 comments | 06 Nov 24 17:14 UTC | HN request time: 0.209s | source
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FigurativeVoid ◴[06 Nov 24 20:22 UTC] No.42068747[source]▶
When the pandemic started, I really enjoyed the podcast. They seemed to have some good insights, and I found them funny. It was a vibe that I sorely missed being home alone.

If one them sees this, I hope they take it kindly. The podcast has gone downhill drastically. The level of discourse has dropped considerably. They make all sorts of claims with very little evidence.

Recently they have all agreed that voter ID laws "just make sense." But they don't even bring up any of the unpleasant history around IDs.

When DeSantis was running, they didn't ever talk about him flying immigrant around as a horrible political stunt.

They've been leaning closer and closer to anti vax stances.

I still listen.. but I'll probably stop soon. It's becoming a bro podcast.

David Friedberg has the best mind for evidence, and he speaks less and less.

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coolspot ◴[06 Nov 24 21:42 UTC] No.42069909[source]▶
Voter ID laws do, in fact, just make sense.
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seadan83 ◴[07 Nov 24 02:57 UTC] No.42072899[source]▶
Drivers license or a hunting license are acceptable but student ID is not acceptable to vote does not make sense.

Further, it is a superficially reasonable solution to a non-problem.

Fwiw: "time and time again, voter photo ID laws are proven to be ineffective tools to fight voter fraud — in the rare instances it does take place. While voter photo ID laws aim to prevent in-person voter impersonation, an almost non-existent form of voter fraud, other types of voter impersonation are similarly rare and not cause for significant concern. According to the Brennan Center, the rate of in-person voter impersonation is extremely low: only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It’s worth noting that this rate is even significantly lower than other rare forms of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which voter photo ID laws do not address."

"Voter fraud is so extremely rare. Out of 250,000,000 votes cast by mail between 2000 and 2020, there were 193 criminal convictions. By those numbers, a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than they are to commit voter fraud. Further, there are already measures in place to detect irregularities and investigate potential cases of voter fraud, making the need for further legislation even smaller."

https://www.lwv.org/blog/whats-so-bad-about-voter-id-laws

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1. skissane ◴[07 Nov 24 03:13 UTC] No.42072975[source]▶
> Drivers license or a hunting license are acceptable but student ID is not acceptable to vote does not make sense.

Drivers licenses are issued by a single state-wide government agency in each state and there are national standards for their security.

Student IDs are issued by thousands of educational institutions, both public and private, and they don't have the same security standards.

It is much easier for election officials to distinguish genuine from fake drivers licenses than genuine from fake student IDs, so it actually makes a lot of sense to accept the former as voting ID but not the latter.

I know less about hunting licenses, but if they are issued by a statewide agency, they would be closer to drivers licenses than student IDs, so accepting them but not student IDs makes sense too.