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Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada

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747 points empressplay | 9 comments | 06 Nov 24 23:04 UTC | HN request time: 1.947s | source | bottom
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joshdavham ◴[06 Nov 24 23:38 UTC] No.42071299[source]▶
> "Most people can say, 'Why is it a big deal for a teenager now to have their data [on TikTok]?' Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world,"

I’m technically Gen-Z (but just barely) and this is something that really worries me. It’s become increasingly normal in recent times to share absolutely everything online but I’ve got a pretty grim feeling that this isn’t gonna end well. People don’t realize that the AI’s being trained on your data today will act as an internet history that you can never delete.

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ipaddr ◴[07 Nov 24 00:24 UTC] No.42071740[source]▶
I wouldn't worry about it the truth is the internet forgets quickly. Important popular things disappear quicker than you expect. User data and logs exponentially becomes less valuable as time goes out. Know you are at McDonalds now is much more valuable then that you visited 10 years ago and being able to connect this data becomes difficult when devices switch. Video from 2005's is generally not easily consumable because of format changes and quality from a few years ago makes older video painful to watch. Even facebook starts forgetting data you upload.. stops being searchable after a few years.
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nirav72 ◴[07 Nov 24 00:31 UTC] No.42071811[source]▶
But the fact that you prefer McDonald’s will not forgotten and will be part of some data profile on you , sold and resold by data brokers.
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1. xanderlewis ◴[07 Nov 24 00:36 UTC] No.42071855[source]▶
Sorry, but who cares?
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2. A4ET8a8uTh0 ◴[07 Nov 24 02:52 UTC] No.42072860[source]▶
This is the fascinating question, because people who would normally respond on 'who cares' question, are also the ones, who know full well that even participation in an online forum is effectively builds up their profile. I am beyond redemption so I am their avatar.
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3. xanderlewis ◴[07 Nov 24 03:39 UTC] No.42073127[source]▶
> I am beyond redemption so I am their avatar.

I have no idea what that sentence means.

I also have no idea why I should care that someone knows I like to go to McDonald’s.

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4. genewitch ◴[07 Nov 24 04:36 UTC] No.42073447{3}[source]▶
Well, when the transplant committee uses it (your data) to triage your new heart or whatever
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5. xanderlewis ◴[07 Nov 24 06:03 UTC] No.42073863{4}[source]▶
I’d be more worried if that was how it worked. But it isn’t — at least not where I live.
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6. sethammons ◴[07 Nov 24 07:22 UTC] No.42074361{5}[source]▶
Yet. All signs point to its inevitability.
7. genewitch ◴[08 Nov 24 21:06 UTC] No.42090479{5}[source]▶
I waited a while to reply to see if anyone else had anything to say about this. What jurisdiction doesn't triage heart transplants? Someone who eats $3,000/yr at mcdonalds vs someone who eats $50/yr at mcdonalds would be information pertinent to triage, wouldn't it? Even if you suppose that all human life is equal, then the amount of time a life is extended with a transplant matters, and the $50/yr person will probably (in the statistical sense) live longer than the other, all other things equal.

Maybe the committees don't "action" on this information because they don't have it, but it would be very silly to not use this information. I'd be curious what sort of triage wouldn't use this information. First-come first-serve?

if your goal is to maximize the length of human lives, that is, to put donor hearts to the maximum use for value, you'd have to use information like this!

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8. xanderlewis ◴[11 Nov 24 19:58 UTC] No.42109992{6}[source]▶
What jurisdiction does? Seriously, can you name one? Is that how it works in the US?
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9. A4ET8a8uTh0 ◴[11 Nov 24 20:15 UTC] No.42110116{7}[source]▶
I am not a doctor, but if the test is whether your diet could become a factor then you do not have to look further than heart transplant waiting list criteria[1][2]. For example, please note that 'morbid obesity' is noted as a relative contraindication. McD enjoyers are not known for being fit ( I should know ).

I personally think you are asking the wrong question here.

[1]https://www.upmc.com/services/transplant/heart/process/waiti... [2]https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/transplant/referring-physici...