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    rconti ◴[] No.42070771[source]
    It's a lot of "fun" trying to get acceptable photos. Last week I went to my local American Automobile Association (AAA) office to get an International Driver's Permit (IDP). It's just a translation of your license, which is valid for 1 year. I had to take 2 passport-sized photos with me, which I did.

    But I was told they wouldn't be accepted because I had long hair and a beard in them, but short hair and no beard now. That's absurd, because it's the same photo used in both of my passports, and there's no requirement that you don't alter your appearance from your passport photo. Somehow border guards can crack the code.

    Amusingly, my California driver's license shows short hair and no beard, but the AAA person wasn't even looking at my CA license at the time. What happens if I grow long hair and a beard before I travel? Was he just trying to upsell me on a $9.99 photo?

    We had a hell of a time getting the UK passport authorities to accept the photos we sent in for her passport; they recommend getting your photos taken at an "official" UK location where the digital photos are identified by a code you send in. Well, we happened to be traveling through Australia during this timeframe, so we were able to stop at an Australian Post Office, which supposedly had the same "digital" system, but instead of a code to send to the UK authorities, they handed us printed photos and a web link. Thankfully I was able to use the web link to download the photo and upload it to the UK site, where it was approved almost immediately, and the new passport arrived back at our home before we returned from our trip. But there's no user-obvious criteria that was being used to reject the SEVERAL rounds of photos we had sent to the UK earlier.

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    1. ethbr1 ◴[] No.42071107[source]
    > But I was told they wouldn't be accepted because I had long hair and a beard in them, but short hair and no beard now.

    Tell them your religion doesn't permit beardless photos, so you grew one for the photo.

    When they ask what religion, pick one with beards.

    It's AAA, not the police -- the person behind the desk will shrug, now with a reason not to care, and create your IDP.

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    2. stavros ◴[] No.42072365[source]
    > When they ask what religion, pick one with beards.

    I just love this sentence.

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    3. thaumasiotes ◴[] No.42073588[source]
    A lot of companies seem to have "policies" that are grounded in nothing. Airlines are especially bad about this, thinking they know better than you whether you'll be able to get through immigration at the destination. For whatever reason, airline policies about whether you can get on the plane are completely unrelated to the destination countries' policies about whether you can be allowed in.

    The most egregious such policy that comes to mind was when Philippine Airlines refused to give me a boarding pass for a flight to China unless I filled out a health declaration form that was guaranteed to expire before my flight arrived.

    There was of course no obstacle to me filling out (a new copy of) the form on arrival in China. As was necessarily the case, given that the pre-flight declaration expired during the flight.

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    4. donw ◴[] No.42073688[source]
    Gotta cover all the bases and tell them you're Jewslamic Rastodox Sikhamish.
    5. bbarnett ◴[] No.42073691[source]
    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/pastafarian-who-fought-...
    6. foomar ◴[] No.42073917[source]
    I think the rationale behind this is that many countries will fine the airline around $10,000 for each passenger that doesn't have the right immigration documentation and has to be deported. So there is a reason they err on the side of caution for them at the expense of making your life harder
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    7. Scoundreller ◴[] No.42073969{3}[source]
    It’s not the denied entry pipeline that a lot of countries worry about. Those have always been the airline’s problem.

    It’s the lawful refugee claims they might be forced to consider/accept if a claimant can make landfall.

    And their dislike of citizens using minimal ID to lawfully gain entry home.

    So they extort the airlines to fulfill their wishes on foreign soil.

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    8. consf ◴[] No.42074095[source]
    Why enforce something that’s bound to become irrelevant by the time it’s needed?
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    9. walthamstow ◴[] No.42075722[source]
    These kind of policies are usually grounded by the one dickhead who tried to do something completely stupid that they never anticipated, now they have to have a policy for it.
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    10. xattt ◴[] No.42075784[source]
    > A lot of companies seem to have "policies" that are grounded in nothing.

    A lot of this comes down to people not wanting to stick their head out to change process and groupthink.

    I witnessed an individual in a “worker bee” capacity trying to suggest a small-but-significant change on a client-facing first-contact form. They went through their CoC to get the message out, but got the “that’s nice, dear” treatment.

    Said “worker bee” moved into a different department some time later, and all of a sudden, it was such a great idea that no one had thought about.

    11. taneq ◴[] No.42076169{3}[source]
    Every dumb rule and warning label has a story attached.
    12. taneq ◴[] No.42076174{3}[source]
    To avert liability, usually.
    13. philsnow ◴[] No.42079558[source]
    "I can't tell you, it's one with beards and also secrets"
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    14. viridian ◴[] No.42080053{3}[source]
    "Right, I'm just going to jot down Eastern Orthodoxy then, move along."
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    15. thaumasiotes ◴[] No.42080180{3}[source]
    > These kind of policies are usually grounded by the one dickhead who tried to do something completely stupid that they never anticipated, now they have to have a policy for it.

    How do you think that could create a policy of "before boarding the plane, you must fill out some invalid paperwork which will be available, and valid, after you disembark"? There is literally zero consequence for not doing it, and also literally zero benefit for doing it.

    16. ethbr1 ◴[] No.42081757{4}[source]
    My newest Comcast cancellation reason is telling them I'm converting to the Amish faith, and could I talk to them for a moment about it...
    17. foomar ◴[] No.42143831{4}[source]
    "It’s not the denied entry pipeline that a lot of countries worry about." - do you have any evidence for that claim?