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exmicrosoldier ◴[] No.41984166[source]
I disagree with Dan due to my experience as an low level employee under Ballmer. He encouraged political infighting and backstabbing and dog eat dog internal competition, while praising and desiring tight integration between teams.

He wanted "cloud first, moblie first" - two firsts! The culture at the time was built around RAID - the internal bug datadbase and that there should be clear prioritization for everything.

The inability to decide between enterprise cloud and consumer client devices held Microsoft back.

Ballmer had customers asking for enterprise cloud in 2000 but he kept listening to people talking about lifting windows sales by 10 percent with search integrated to the desktop.

And then they chose the bloated SQL server for that and wondered why that couldn't run on normal consumer hardware in Longhorn.

The fundamental tradeoffs between something that sacrifices generalization for specialization and efficiency meant that what is good for running server rack NASDAQ didn't work for low powered laptops.

From a low level employee perspective Ballmer was the ruthless guy that wanted people to hate each other at work as they fought for survival lord of the flies style but was pikachu surprised that we could never deliver integrated experiences that worked together.

Satya's two key abilites to me were the ability to actually prioritize in a coherent way and the decision to bring the rank and file infighting down because integrated experiences are hard to build when you want your brother and sister departments to fail so yours gets more budget because thats how Ballmer worked.

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alexawarrior4 ◴[] No.41986087[source]
So Ballmer-era Microsoft was the inspiration for Amazon's current culture, I see.
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xkqd ◴[] No.41986409[source]
This one’s on Jack Welch - a pioneer in short term gain over long term building. You absolutely can juice a company’s performance by going dog-eat-dog, but inevitably when the smoke clears you’re left with jackals and hyenas stretched too thin.

Always worth mentioning that this culturally altered America in a way that we’ll probably never unwind.

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1. alsetmusic ◴[] No.41988044[source]
> Always worth mentioning that this culturally altered America in a way that we’ll probably never unwind.

I think this about a lot of things, such as certain events in politics or generative AI. I'm curious how you apply this to ruthless cutthroat policies at a handful of (admittedly quite large) tech companies?