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488 points levkk | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.419s | source

Hi everyone,

I've been "funemployed" for a few months and with all that free time and idle hands I wrote a full web framework (think Rails, not Flask) for Rust.

It's boring old MVC, has its own ORM, templates, background jobs, auth, websockets, migrations and more. If you're keen but don't feel like rewriting your app in a different language, Rwf has a WSGI server to run Django (or Flask) inside Rust [1], letting you migrate to Rust at your own pace without disrupting your website.

I think Rust makes a great prototyping and deploy straight to production language. Now it has yet another framework for y'all to play with.

Cheers!

[1] https://levkk.github.io/rwf/migrating-from-python/

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imiric ◴[] No.41918890[source]
After years of working with web frameworks in Python and Java, and then picking up Go along the way, I've come to appreciate Go's approach much more. That is, with a rich and capable standard library, you really don't need traditional frameworks. Need an HTTP server, router, etc.? Use stdlib. Need templates? Use stdlib. Need an ORM? You don't, but you may want to consider a small 3rd party query builder library of your choice. And so on.

This avoids depending on a complex framework that may or may not exist in a few years, improves security by minimizing the amount of 3rd party dependencies, keeps the learning curve low for any new developers joining the project, and is more flexible and easier to maintain. I don't have experience with Rust, and judging by the comments here, web frameworks might still be useful for it. Which is a shame, since the batteries included stdlib approach is far superior IME.

Anyway, I don't want to shoot down your efforts. Congrats on the launch and good luck!

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metadaemon ◴[] No.41919110[source]
Not needing an ORM made me laugh
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sunrunner ◴[] No.41919353[source]
Why is that?
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stickfigure ◴[] No.41919390[source]
Your programming language has objects. Your database has relational tables. By definition, you need to map between the two.

You can write your own or you can use someone else's. Those are the two choices.

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1. deznu ◴[] No.41920482[source]
I kind of agree with this. Data in a database is often relational (hey it might not be, but it's still nice to represent it in a struct sometimes, rather than 10–20 different variables which can change anytime your database changes).

I've been using Go recently, and while I'm not convinced on an active-record style ORM in Go (I don't think the language is dynamic enough, and I'm not the biggest fan of codegen), I've been loading the row data from Postgres into a Result struct (pretty much a 1:1 mapping of the Postgres result set into the struct), and then using another function to load the Result struct into struct with their relationships attached (using tags on the structs to define the relationships between them). This has worked great using reflections & generics.

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2. __mattya ◴[] No.41920846[source]
And chance this is open source?

I’m building something similar and I can’t decide on the relationship struct tag syntax to use. Would be neat to see how others are thinking about it.