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greenie_beans ◴[] No.41918148[source]
ugh i really don't want people to mine in the mobile basin. that's one of the most diverse ecosystems in north america. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j9coyJeB4Q
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declan_roberts ◴[] No.41918200[source]
It seems backwards, but pretty much the only fuel that protects ecosystems on a large scale are fossil fuels and nuclear.

Global reforestation is almost entirely the result of households switching from wood to coal in the 20th century.

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waveBidder ◴[] No.41918505[source]
> It seems backwards, but pretty much the only fuel that protects ecosystems on a large scale are fossil fuels and nuclear.

This is ludicrously off-base for fossil fuels, even if we're only talking about local pollutants from the plants themselves, nevermind things like Exxon Valdez or the pipelines or the act of mining. Nuclear seems likely, though as the other commenter noted it's not a magic bullet either.

> Global reforestation is almost entirely the result of households switching from wood to coal in the 20th century.

This is a European phenomena mostly, and is a result of urbanization mostly.

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1. declan_roberts ◴[] No.41918677[source]
What do you think the people in cities burn for fuel to keep themselves warm?
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2. ianeigorndua ◴[] No.41918794[source]
Trash, mostly.
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4. luckylion ◴[] No.41919190[source]
Not really. I live close to Hamburg, Germany. _Very_ eager to be eco-friendly and sustainable.

Currently: 64% coal, lots of nat gas, ~20 renewables.

The future plan is to use a lot more industrial waste heat. Burning garbage is done and planned, but nowhere near a major factor. Not to mention that the garbage would also need to come from something: plastics from oil, wood from trees etc.

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5. UltraSane ◴[] No.41920635{3}[source]
Germany shutting down their perfectly safe nuclear reactors instead of their coal plants was so stupid. Germany emits 5 to 6 times more CO2 per J than France.
6. Tade0 ◴[] No.41923527[source]
They used coal, but apartment blocks use considerably less energy per unit living space vs detached houses thanks to their lower surface area to volume ratio.