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elzbardico ◴[] No.41914288[source]
Those specific tests, in their context, are obviously racist.

But I believe that now that we have public education available to everyone we should have some basic literacy and civic tests for people to vote.

Also, provide no-expenses IDs for people, make voting day a national holiday, stop private campaign financing, make lobbying illegal.

Give free public transporation on voting day for those who need, but otherwise stop the idea that we have to convince everyone to vote, no matter how desinterested and oblivious to the issues they are.

The idea that people who couldn't care less about public life and their issues need to vote no matter what is completely stupid.

Voting is not only a right, it should entail a duty of being minimally interested on its consequences. Democrats love this because it favors their base demographics, but that's how you get a Donald Trump too.

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robocat ◴[] No.41914604[source]
Your implicit premise is that we vote for policy. Democracy works despite the majority not understanding much about policy.

One critical strength of democracy is that it allows voters to remove the current politician - even if that politician would rather not be removed.

Where would you pick your line? Small moves of the line change the size of the disenfranchised group.

And I have to admire your chutzpah of suggesting tests to create a disenfranchised group on an article showing serious flaws with testing... Of course you haven't suggested a single way to fix any flaws. I sincerely hope you are not working in any engineering role.

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1. hammock ◴[] No.41914697[source]
> Democracy works despite the majority not understanding much about policy.

Citation needed

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2. Cthulhu_ ◴[] No.41914787[source]
It's far from perfect but most democratic societies haven't collapsed yet. Yet, because project 2025 and its proponents are calling for an end to democracy.
3. robocat ◴[] No.41915288[source]
Citation:

  Your implicit premise is that we vote for policy. Democracy works despite the ma. . . | Hacker News. (n.d.). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41914604