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1413 points mooreds | 4 comments | 21 Oct 24 20:15 UTC | HN request time: 0.848s | source
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Jun8 ◴[22 Oct 24 03:11 UTC] No.41910854[source]▶
Watching this is ... hard to find the words to describe it. It's insane!

It shows us how mind bogglingly vast the universe is and how we're literally nothing compared to it. Paradoxically, it also makes me feel incredibly potent and capable as a human being in that being this small we can know so much!

Your size is to the distance of that distant spiral galaxy (420 Mly - 10e24m) as a neutrino is to you (effective cross section of a 1MeV neutron = 10e-24m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(length))

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kranner ◴[22 Oct 24 05:16 UTC] No.41911402[source]▶
That we can know anything at all is a miracle in itself. It could have been just fine evolutionarily for us Earth creatures to be no more than Large Action Models with no inner experience, but somehow we ended up as these perceiving, cogitating, apprehending beings.
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1. bbor ◴[22 Oct 24 14:01 UTC] No.41914387[source]▶
How could you possibly be an affective agent without knowledge? And how could anything ever use knowledge without perceiving it? Whenever anyone talks about philosophical zombies, I say “show me one, then” — until then I’m sticking with (what I see as) the scientific consensus, which is that we’re material like literally everything else is in the Actual, perceivable world.

What would it be like to not be like anything?

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2. kranner ◴[22 Oct 24 16:10 UTC] No.41915759[source]▶
I'm also a materialist, and the lack of p-zombies here cannot preclude their existence elsewhere.
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3. bbor ◴[23 Oct 24 03:11 UTC] No.41921405[source]▶
How would you know one when you saw it, though? What is a p-zombie, if you’re not allowed to use any synonyms for “soul”?
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4. kbelder ◴[25 Oct 24 05:39 UTC] No.41942514{3}[source]▶
The concept of p-zombies requires a soul, or other mystic forces. It just hides it. Materialists should reject the notion as inherently incoherent. Two things cannot be physically the same, where one is conscious and the other not. To think so, is to invalidate physics.