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peterkos ◴[] No.41900587[source]
I'm reminded of a time that an intern took down us-east1 on AWS, by modifying a configuration file they shouldn't have had access to. Amazon (somehow) did the correct thing and didn't fire them -- instead, they used the experience to fix the security hole. It was a file they shouldn't have had access to in the first place.

If the intern "had no experience with the AI lab", is it the right thing to do to fire them, instead of admitting that there is a security/access fault internally? Can other employees (intentionally, or unintentionally) cause that same amount of "damage"?

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noobermin ◴[] No.41909887[source]
It's a Chinese company, saving face is far more important for them than "teaching lessons" to anyone, particularly employees who are probably considered expendable.
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throw3828455 ◴[] No.41910118[source]
I always laugh when I see these predictable comments about "face" when talking about Asian companies, like they are so beholden to their culture they can't make individual judgments.

I wonder if we applied this culture talk to Western companies how funny it would sound.

The reason Facebook is firing so many people is because individualism "is far more important for them than 'teaching lessons' to anyone, particularly employees who are probably considered expendable."

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simplify ◴[] No.41911048{3}[source]
I don't get it, aren't individual judgements made in the context of culture?

How does your example sound funny?

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1. gwervc ◴[] No.41913638{4}[source]
Every company worldwide, including US ones are trying to "save face" when anything bad happens. This is why we have corporate speech.