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Jun8 ◴[22 Oct 24 03:11 UTC] No.41910854[source]▶
Watching this is ... hard to find the words to describe it. It's insane!

It shows us how mind bogglingly vast the universe is and how we're literally nothing compared to it. Paradoxically, it also makes me feel incredibly potent and capable as a human being in that being this small we can know so much!

Your size is to the distance of that distant spiral galaxy (420 Mly - 10e24m) as a neutrino is to you (effective cross section of a 1MeV neutron = 10e-24m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(length))

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kranner ◴[22 Oct 24 05:16 UTC] No.41911402[source]▶
That we can know anything at all is a miracle in itself. It could have been just fine evolutionarily for us Earth creatures to be no more than Large Action Models with no inner experience, but somehow we ended up as these perceiving, cogitating, apprehending beings.
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valval ◴[22 Oct 24 08:30 UTC] No.41912322[source]▶
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”
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elteto ◴[22 Oct 24 11:43 UTC] No.41913314[source]▶
How arrogant and silly to look at these incredible pictures and think “Yep, this was all made for ME. I am the center of the universe!”.
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1. protonbob ◴[22 Oct 24 12:30 UTC] No.41913577[source]▶
Q1: What is the chief end of man? Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy Him for ever.

The Christian belief is that creation was made for God and not the other way around. It's actually profoundly not focused on the self.

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2. bbor ◴[22 Oct 24 14:07 UTC] No.41914448[source]▶
Well, creation was made for one god, which happens to look just like us and never once mentions other peoples. To be a Christian astronomer you have to believe one of these:

1. God is wasting the vast, vast, vast majority of the universe on emptiness while he focuses on his fave planet.

2. The universe is full of humans, in which case Jesus is presumably getting re-crucified every few seconds to absolve new groups. Or I guess maybe he split up into a trillion copies that all got crucified at once? Or we’re the 1-in-a-trillion lucky ones that everyone else just gets to hear about?

3. The rest of the universe has aliens because god got bored/wanted things for us to play with, as his super special favorite species. The aliens don’t get to look like god, ofc.

No offense intended to anyone, but I don’t see how you could possibly accept Christian doctrine without necessarily thinking of earth as unfathomably special.

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3. elteto ◴[22 Oct 24 15:10 UTC] No.41915061[source]▶
It actually is incredibly human-centered, to the point that humans were made in _his_ image and the Sun is supposed to turn _around_ the Earth.

But all this makes sense when you realize it’s a primitive human myth made by primitive people with limited understanding of the universe and the world around them.

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4. protonbob ◴[22 Oct 24 15:22 UTC] No.41915196[source]▶
Oh I do think it’s special. But thinking of the universe as a waste because there are lots of uninhabited planets is pretty human focused. Why would it be a waste for an infinite god with infinite amount of attention to spend time creating a large universe?
5. protonbob ◴[22 Oct 24 15:25 UTC] No.41915216[source]▶
Not to get to into the weeds but being made in the image of God does not necessarily involve physical appearance. Also, it has nothing to do with being heliocentric or geocentric.

I don’t really get the point that you’re making.

6. pbhjpbhj ◴[23 Oct 24 10:18 UTC] No.41923580[source]▶
Geocentrism is not a particularly Christian belief. It's also as true as heliocentrism.