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Learning to Learn

(kevin.the.li)
320 points jklm | 1 comments | 22 Oct 24 00:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.224s | source
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keeptrying ◴[22 Oct 24 04:26 UTC] No.41911188[source]▶
A big hole in this article is that you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must.

Eg: For RL it would be Barto&Sutton book.

Sometimes the best source is not intuitive. Eg: The best way to become a safe driver is to go to performance drivign school - its a bit expensive but they tell you how to sit and stay alert in a car which I have never seen outside of these schools.

One of my most common things nowadays is to ask ChatGPT is to ask to build a curriculum. Creating and understanding what a great curriculum looks like is 20% of the work of understanding a field.

You can LEARN ANYTHING now if you have the time and inclination and elbow grease. Truly nothing is beyond your grasp - NOTHING. Its a magical time.

I'm actually building a tool that will do all this for you and get you started down the learning path faster than what we have now.

And for the curious - the best way to learn medicine is not a textbook. There are solutions out there like Skethcy which work much better for anatomy.

My own learning project - learn Medicine "on the side". It seems ludcirous that we give up the keys to our health to doctors just so we don't have to learn 2 years of courses. Am going to fix that!

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johnnyanmac ◴[22 Oct 24 06:49 UTC] No.41911837[source]▶
>you need to find the very best learning resource there is. This is a must.

I think there's a line around "good enough", unless your goal of course is to be on the road to "become the very best". I think the better metric is making sure you have a accurate resource over a quality one. The 15-20 hour "sprint hard" methodology isn't stopping after that first sprint, just slowing down.

So if you find/can now access a better resource later, just start the sprint again on that. I know from experience (in real time, unfortunately) how easily "find the best resource" can end up becoming "spend weeks collecting resources but not consuming them".

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Arisaka1 ◴[22 Oct 24 08:31 UTC] No.41912327[source]▶
The other problem is: How do you recognize what is "good enough" if you lack the skills/competence required to be able to say "this is good enough"?

For example, I'm a frontend developer who wants to learn backend. And let's say that I chose C# and .NET for this. I can either do tutorials in Microsoft docs and then reach out to Reddit or some other community for resources, to receive the commonsense advice "just build something", and we're back to zero because now the goal is to build something for learning's sake therefore what is "good enough project" to build to maximize gains?

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1. johnnyanmac ◴[22 Oct 24 10:16 UTC] No.41912861[source]▶
>then reach out to Reddit or some other community for resources, to receive the commonsense advice "just build something"

An expert giving bad advice isn't going to help with your curriculum. To give a charitable interpretaion, forums like Reddit are very used to getting mostly Novices coming to ask questions. To the point where even if an advanced novice is asking about how to reach "Competent" level they will still give novice advice. And the best way to climb from novice to advance beginner is to "just build stuff".

There's definitely an open secret that there's plenty of novice material, and plenty of expert material. But the road to competent and proficient is basically a dead man's land for many subjects. I argue the curve to competent is harder than Proficient and Expert[0]. Such a hard point that you often won't find "best resources" without either education, consulting an expert, or simply work a job in that topic.

I don't have much better advice if you are seeking resources. But the next step up if you get stumped is to put more effort into finding other experts who will help out. try to email those potentially open to give advice on what to find or what's good/bad. Join communities similar to what domains you want to explore and form relationships. If you are getting to that point, offer to help contribute to projects others are working on.

[0]: Expert is steeper, but by that point you have a good sense of judgement to figure out what is a good or bad resource to study from. So it's "easier" to learn how to learn by this point.