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tptacek ◴[] No.41908565[source]
This is a good way for Ars to generate clicks and a more honest headline probably wouldn't move the needle much, but it's worth being clear for HN that the objection here is not that locked phones are good for consumers, but that the subsidization deals locked phones enable are.
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marinmania ◴[] No.41908875[source]
I don't think that is a more accurate headline.

The potential regulation is about the government making phones unlock automatically after two months of purchase. The regulation isn't about banning discounts or sales.

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crazygringo ◴[] No.41908932[source]
If unlocking is made mandatory, the phone subsidies will end. People will be forced to pay full price up front, or else effectively pay more as interest (even if that interest is effectively "hidden" in the overall increased price). So yes, this regulation is exactly about that.
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1. vohk ◴[] No.41909949[source]
You are wrong, empirically. We tossed that bollocks out in Canada seven years ago.

Miraculously, carriers simply started offering "tabs" or other language where you pay the subsidized phone cost as an addition to your plan bill for the contract period, with a clause that if you cancel early you still have to pay up the difference.

Arguments in favour of locking are nothing but corporate apologia and business crying wolf.

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2. crazygringo ◴[] No.41910176[source]
Sure, but how does the company account for the losses from people who get the phone and then stop paying and switch to another carrier?

What happens is the overall price goes up to offset those losses, even when it's not explicitly labeled as such. That's just basic economics. Empirically.

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3. vohk ◴[] No.41911565[source]
Which part of this having actually been done in Canada and other regions, and what you're claiming not happening is unclear to you?

American Exceptionalism at work...