ByteDance sacks intern for sabotaging AI project

What we often think of as Insider Threat in the west is just another Tuesday in Chinese business. I have many experiences of this in the video game industry. This industry sabotage and theft is a very real part of getting ahead, even amongst companies that are owned by the same parent company (ex: studios owned in part by Tencent).

for every gifted, motivated, positive, constructive person in the world, there are probably 100,000 that want to tear them down and eat the carcass.

No there’s not. This is what narcissistic assholes tell themselves when someone calls them out for being a narcissistic asshole.

10,000 people is as many people as some entire towns, I don't think society would hold together very long if it were true.

100,000 supposes that there are... hmm... about eighty thousand non-evil people in the world, and (odds are) exactly none of them are Marshallese and about 2 are Samoan, to give a sense of how silly this is.

I believe the opposite. The issue is that destroying requires much less effort than creating.

The world does not work like that. Sure, for every person, there may be 100_000 that do not share their ideals. But even 10/100_000 would seem ridiculously high as a percentage of people who actively try to destroy and cannibalize the work of others to showcase their own. Another commenter said it here - it's easier to destroy than create. I guess by my vibe-based estimates, it's at least 1_000 times easier to destroy than create, in aggregate.

Only in low-trust societies. Modern, higher-trust society can only function because this isn't true.

It doesn't . But usually that third of the population is busy going for each others throat and ignoring the "fools" while then taking the coins that mysteriously spawn near those as psychopath price mobey.

There is probably a high percentage of tearing down, I doubt its so extreme.

I think maybe 1 in 100k is actually anything special, but odds are you aren't special, you just noticed that 20% of the population is as gifted/motivated/constructive as you are (statistically speaking, assuming a bell curve).

And of those, yes, some small percentage will still feel "special" and affronted that other people have the same ideas/goals/desires as them.

It's a rat race and it's not your fault.

And it doesn't stop at sabotage or theft ;)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/xu-yao-death-sentence-poisoning...

Case in point: Elon Musk. I'm amazed at the quantity and vehemence directed at him in this forum. But I suppose it's just human nature.

You can have both at the same time: Say, 15 who want to help them, and 5 who would want to hurt them. And then you can be right both of you. Although the angry ones would be harder to see (sychopants)

Yet oddly enough, the vitriol didn't turn up against him when he was creating awesome stuff, but when he was creating awesome stuff and behaving like a monstrous asshole. Curious!

(There are plenty of people bandwagonning on Musk hate, and definitely some for his political bent, but there are also plenty of totally valid and non-political reasons to have disdain for him)

I remember plenty of naysayers claiming that Musk was going to go broke with Tesla and SpaceX, driven more by vitriol than fiscal arguments. Astronomers (and only astronomers) also hate Starlink.

I'm going to agree with Walter that it's just human nature to want to drag down the successful. Envy is one of the seven deadly sins, after all.

That's why you see everyone losing their goddamn minds over Warren Buffet. They just can't stand to see success. Jensen Huang. Michael Dell. John Mars. Alain Wertheimer. Phil Knight. Dustin Moskovitz.

People literally just trawl the most-successful-people list and find folks to hate. Simple as.

Mark Cuban is an interesting in-between case. But yes, you have shown that wealth doesn’t do it; but wealth and an appetite for publicity (especially for wealth-related attributes) seems a solid predictor.

Pride is also one of the deadly sins.

Part of that correlation is because one of the best ways to get publicity, as Musk has discovered, is to be a monstrous asshole.

Of course you can also get it for philanthropic acts, but Musk doesn't, again because he's an asshole.